another look at 5G – US military

October 2020 Forums General discussion another look at 5G – US military

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  • #207176
    J Surman
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    #207177
    ALB
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    That’s just what is to be expected under capitalism and I am sure it is true that the military is seeking to use the technology for lethal purposes. But that’s the same with any new technology. Capitalism will misuse it, either for commercial or military ends.

    5G technology allows faster data collection and analysis and will be an essential part of what comrades Rozanov and Shannon outlined computers could do in a socialist world. So we mustn’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    Incidentally, as I think has been pointed out here before, those behind that site and video are notorious conspiracy theorists and fake news distributors. See:

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch

    Anything Michel Chossudovsky is associated with should be looked on with suspicion.

     

    #207178
    J Surman
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    I agree with your first two paras ALB, however as far as conspiracy theories go I believe we should be prepared to seek out information that doesn’t get an unbiased coverage in MSM, much of which presents limited and clearly biased coverage of events.

    The BBC, Guardian, etc have an agenda and fail to cover topics which don’t fit that agenda. I prefer to check out individuals I have learnt to trust over time because they have been proved to be accurate in their coverage most of the time.

    Some examples – Jonathan Cook, Media Lens, John Pilger, Grayzone.

    I notice that a number of SPGB members regularly give links to the Guardian, BBC, Telegraph, etc, but are we expected to take those as accurate information?

    One only has to check out the coverage, or almost no coverage of the current Julian Assange case on MSM which is surely one of the most important cases ever for press freedom – and so little of it is being covered.

    Unfortunately journalists and presenters are paid to toe the line, if they don’t they’re out on their ear. So they know what they have to do to keep the pay cheque coming in.

    #207179
    Matthew Culbert
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    One only has to check out the coverage, or almost no coverage of the current Julian Assange case on MSM which is surely one of the most important cases ever for press freedom – and so little of it is being covered.

    This is one of the most glaring examples of the lack of so called journalistic integrity and solidarity I have seen for a long time.

    #207183
    robbo203
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    One only has to check out the coverage, or almost no coverage of the current Julian Assange case on MSM which is surely one of the most important cases ever for press freedom – and so little of it is being covered.

     

    There is daily coverage of the trial here

     

    https://dissidentvoice.org/2020/09/assanges-fourteenth-day-at-the-old-bailey-elections-cracking-passwords-and-failures-of-proof/

    #207186
    J Surman
    Participant

    Yes thanks Robbo, I know that – but how much on/in UK media. Binoy Kampmark and Craig Murray are publishing each day. Jonathan Cook frequently. John Pilger went to the court on day 1 but was not allowed access.He made a speech outside the court and has also written about it. Only six people were allowed in court (family members, for which C.M. got a pass) . The ‘press room’ on video link had very few attendees. Banned were Amnesty, Reporters without Borders and other similar organisations.

    Sorry, don’t want to derail the thread, but this is important.

    #207189
    robbo203
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    Yes thanks Robbo, I know that – but how much on/in UK media. Binoy Kampmark and Craig Murray are publishing each day.

     

    True.  So much for the concern of press for press freedom

    #207194
    alanjjohnstone
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    Best coverage

    https://consortiumnews.com/

    At the time the mainstream media  were all very happy to use Wikileaks and if the same standard of justice were to be applied they would all be in the dock with Assange

    #207903
    alanjjohnstone
    Participant

    A summary of the media’s neglect of the Julian Assange court-case

    https://dissidentvoice.org/2020/10/none-of-it-reported-how-corporate-media-buried-the-assange-trial/

    #207923
    J Surman
    Participant

    I think we’re on the wrong thread? – but hey ho here we go – another independent journalist here , Jonathan Cook, on Monbiot’s attitude to the Assange case:

    George Monbiot’s Excuses for Not Speaking out Loudly in Defence of Assange Simply Won’t Wash

    #207952
    alanjjohnstone
    Participant

    Janet, i think we are also guilty of not offering a degree of solidarity to Assange by not having a dedicated topic and its own thread. 😥

    We represents the worse of the media hypocrisy reporting, being hung out to dry by the very people who used his whistle-blowing work to increase their circulation.

    #207956
    Matthew Culbert
    Keymaster

    Janet, i think we are also guilty of not offering a degree of solidarity to Assange by not having a dedicated topic and its own thread.

    What is stopping you from opening one?

    #207966
    alanjjohnstone
    Participant

    A typo///”We” should read “he”

    I will Matt the next time i have a useful link to share

    #208064
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Donald Trump rejected 5G due to national security concern, but now Apple is going to be using 5G on their new iPhone. Like they say in regard to the drug traffick: The CIA and the DEA do not like competition

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