Animal torture increasingly popular.

September 2026 Forums General discussion Animal torture increasingly popular.

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  • #264474
    Bijou Drains
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    Even still, hardly credible in many ways. Charities and special interest groups profit from exaggeration. Lots of clicks and money is made from cruelty stories. There was a story going the rounds about dogs in Portugal being put on fishing hooks to act as bait for sharks. Turned out to be a whole load of bollards, but the perpetrators of the hoax made millions. “Charitable work” is very often an adjunct to capitalism. Monetarising natural human empathy and understanding to pay the wages of chief execs and charity “nomenklatura”. I generally don’t give anything to charities, not from a spirit of meanness but because I’d rather give what I can give to others directly to them, where I can.

    In terms of animal cruelty, I don’t think it is a rising issue, if anything it is falling. Historically bating and killing animals for “sport” was a widespread practice, bear bating, dog fights, cock fighting, bull fighting, fox hunting, badger baiting, etc were common and acceptable practices. Attitudes have changed, however practices have moved underground and again, due to capitalism have been increasingly monetarised.

    I worked in Social Work out in the The West of Northumberland in the Cheviots and the edge of the Pennines in the 80’s and 90’s. Most of the hill farmers and sheep farmers despised the hunt. They would come through farms, destroy things, often the hounds would attack sheep dogs and generally cause mayhem to both man and beast. They tolerated them mainly because they were tenant farmers and couldn’t upset the land owning classes. Also the hunt would take any ewes which had died naturally, which happens as part of the life cycle especially in the winter. The cost of hygienically disposing of the animal carcass could have tipped their farm over the edge, so the hunt taking dead animals to feed their hounds was often the difference between eating or not eating.

    The farmers knew how to attract and kill a fox which had become a danger to live stock in a very effective and quick way. Foxes that take chickens, etc. are often injured or moving to the end of their lives, often diseased or very ill. At night time they would run a bit of polyurethane foam against a piece of glass which creates a noise which is very similar to a dying rabbit. The older or diseased fox would come out and the fox would be shot very quickly and relatively mercifully. The idea that the whole of the countryside would be over run by foxes if the hunt was stopped, has been demonstrated to be absolute nonsense.

    #264482
    Thomas_More
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    Thank you genuinely for these insights.

    #264485
    Ciudadano Del Mundo
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/animalkind/2026/07/03/chicks-hatched-pittsburgh-restore-extinct-birds-wild/90576666007/
    Nearly extinct species coming back in wild thanks to Pittsburgh aviary

    I have two aviaries mixed with different birds

    #264844
    Thomas_More
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    (Deleted this news report in advance so as to avoid snide remarks from forum members, which I can do without).

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    #265422
    Ciudadano Del Mundo
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    The wall built by the USA is already creating an ecological disaster, and many wild animals are going to die; they do not care because those constructions civil companies are producing billions of dollars in profits. They are destroying parks and animal reserves; even more, many humans depend on the existence of those animals

    #265528
    Thomas_More
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    Exxon Mobil wants to drive harbour porpoises, the little mini whales, from their North Sea home.

    The oil giant’s plan is to blast the ocean floor with sound cannons—for three months, nonstop, to build a carbon capture and storage site.

    But the porpoises are already under massive stress from noise pollution. (Source: eko.org)

    #265529
    Ciudadano Del Mundo
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    They are killing protected wild horses ( Mustangs ) to produce meat, and they are selling them for $25.00, cheaper than during the time of the Wild West and the cowboys. Anything that can produce profits is a priority in this society, and some humans only care about worshipping leaders and loving capitalism. They are also killing large quantities of donkeys; peasants protect them and mix them with horses to breed mules.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/20/us/trump-wild-horses-legal-loophole-slaughter.html

    Beautiful animals; the natives used to protect them. Horses were part of their culture, and they were called savages; who is the real savage? They protected the forest, and they were destroyed to produce lumber; they protected the salmon, and rivers were destroyed. Salmon farms produce diseases, and they use artificial colours. Overfishing is destroying ocean life, and petroleum tankers spread diseases in the ocean. This society is a real mess.s

    Capitalism is destroying everything; humans are the next one on the list. A bunch of people are justifying the climate disaster; they believe more in the politicians than in scientific investigations. There is a great disregard for science. Everything that is a lie is believable, and everything scientific is rejected.

    I breed birds, and sometimes I let them fly when they are grown.

    My pigeons come back to my loft, but the finches, mourning doves, and parakeets do not come back. Only hummingbirds come back to the original place.

    The problem with these small animals in the wild is that it is very difficult for them to survive (especially society finches); it is preferable to keep them in an aviary. They always have food seeds and fruits ), clean water, plants and a nest to reproduce.

    I produce my own vegetables, and I have a bank of original seeds and my own seeding trays. I am a self-educated agronomist. I love nature like the indigenous peoples. I like to read my books in my garden, and many beautiful wild birds visit my garden, where I have seeds and water for them

    https://centerofthewest.org/2025/08/11/the-spiritual-and-cultural-legacy-of-horses-in-native-american-history/

    #265531
    Thomas_More
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    My father, a member of the SPGB, brought me up with great respect for the native Americans.

    #265534
    Ciudadano Del Mundo
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    My father, a member of the SPGB, brought me up with great respect for the native Americans.
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    I have visited their reservations and nations, have attended their jamboree, and I have lived close to one of them.

    They are good people, beaten badly by this society.

    I am a member of some of their online forums. Yahoo groups used to have many forums, but they are all gone.

    As they say: We signed thousands of treaties with the white men, and all of them were violated except one. They promised to take our lands, and they did it. They are double-tongued

    They are foreigners in their own land, living in extreme poverty, alcoholism, and drug addictions; thousands of natives women disappear every year, and the feminist groups do not mention them.

    It is the same case for the Mexican natives: Mexican natives did not cross the border; the border crossed them, and now they are foreigners in stolen lands.

    Native women are not mentioned because they are not white and they are poor. I was beaten up in this forum because I said it is just a bourgeois movement, and I will say it here and in the grave

    #265537
    Thomas_More
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    ” I was beaten up in this forum because I said it is just a bourgeois movement, and I will say it here and in the grave.”

    I think there are some members still fossilised in the mid-20th century, whose only world is Marxian economics. Even though they are socialists, they remain daubed unwittingly with “flat-cap” leftist prejudice. Which is why they snort, for instance, at progressive views on other fellow animals, new insights, etc.

    Many pay lip-service to William Morris and Shelley, but were they to personally meet them, or have them turn up from the grave on this forum, they would lambast them as bourgeois dilettantes.

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    #265539
    Ciudadano Del Mundo
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    Some dogs are trained like gladiators and boxers to fight against each other until they die; some airport police are turning dogs into drug addicts; Greyhounds are abused, tortured, and used in commercial racing, and some organizations and now protecting them. It is a sport to produce profits. We have cats, and they are part of our family; they decorate our windows, and they are our alarm clock in the morning. Many dogs have saved the lives of many children

    https://www.grey2kusa.org/index.php

    2026 Home Page

    #265540
    Thomas_More
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    Pigs too, the most abused of all animals, have saved their carers’ lives, from drowning by swimming out, and also by getting help from neighbours.

    Lions have saved humans. Dolphins have been doing it since the dawn of history.

    Dogs will give their lives for us.

    Octopuses love to play games with us. All these animals remember humans who were kind to them years later.

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    #265543
    Ciudadano Del Mundo
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    My father, a member of the SPGB, brought me up with great respect for the native Americans.

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    The killing of 70 million native americans is call discovery, and the killing of several thousand is called Thanksgiving. From owners of the land, they became renters. After 500 years, they continue suffering discrimination, humiliation and rejection, and they are called foreigners. Their families were destroyed; that is a real Holocaust, and it was not done by German Nazis, and they have never been compensated. They were not allowed to have guns, but others were allowed to have guns to kill them
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    . ps://nativegov.org/resources/allotment-legacies-guide/

    #265544
    Thomas_More
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    And to destroy the native people, the US exterminated millions of bison, on which the people depended. The whites machine-gunned bison and left the bodies to rot.
    And scalping was encouraged as it proved you had killed “injuns.” Scalps were exchanged for cash.

    #265545
    Thomas_More
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    Today in Africa poachers poison the carcasses of animals they shoot, so that other animals who approach are poisoned and also die.
    In the US cyanide bombs are used to exterminate whole families of wolves. It is also now permitted to kill bears and cubs whilst they hibernate.

    Poachers murdered George Adamson in Kenya, and bombed Richard Leakey, who lost both his legs.

    Trophy hunting is again popular and legal.

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