9/11 – a conspiracy?

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    robbo203
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    There´s been a lot of stuff lately on Twitter about 9/11. Much of it is the usual conspiracy stuff (“it was a zionist plot” ) but sifting the wheat from the chaff I did come across this quite interesting link

    https://keihatsu.substack.com/p/the-official-account-of-911-is-impossible?utm_campaign=post&triedRedirect=true

    It presents what it calls irrefutable scientific evidence to show that the official account of how the Twin Towers collapsed has to be incorrect. There is also the puzzling case of Building 7 which also collapsed. Along with that, there is also the eyewitness accounts of hundreds of individuals who were at the scene when this tragedy happened (including 100 members of the Fire Department)

    I remain skeptical but the scientific evidence looks to be fairly convincing – unless others here have contra evidence they can link to as I don’t have the scientific knowledge to properly assess this claim…

    The purpose of the link is explained as follows:

    The Ongoing Impact of 9/11. The official narrative of who perpetrated 9/11 has fueled the endless War on Terror and several related wars. These have cost trillions of dollars and killed and displaced millions of people. It also led to state-sanctioned torture, the curtailment of civil liberties, and far-reaching digital surveillance. By finding the truth, we can build a more peaceful, just and democratic world.”

    #253946
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Of course 9/11 was a conspiracy — by a group of fanatical Islamists who conspired to bring about what happened.

    But it wasn’t a conspiracy by the US government or elements within it or by the Zionists.

    This article from 2011 puts the case against the “irrefutable evidence” presented by the “Truthers”:

    The 9/11 Truth Movement: The Top Conspiracy Theory, a Decade Later

    #253947
    zugzwang
    Participant

    It certainly was not a Bush conspiracy, unless you think the Bush administration was mad enough to strike the Pentagon/their own defense department. There’s a plethora of evidence debunking all of these nonsensical conspiracy theories (e.g. the jet fuel from the planes helped weaken the towers’ support beams) and also a plethora of reasons for the Arab world to have felt (and to continue to feel) animosity towards the US/Israel. If the Bush administration wanted to bring down the towers as a false flag to invade Iraq, then it also would have made more sense for the hijackers to come from Iraq rather than Saudi Arabia (i.e. an American ally), which was the nationality of most of the hijackers.

    I’d also get off Twitter; it’s slowly turning into an alt-right platform after the Musk takeover, if it isn’t one already.

    #253949

    Oh no. Not the 9/11 conspiracy again.

    #253950
    zugzwang
    Participant

    Reality is also much more interesting… such as how the US supported the Khmer Rouge (after inadvertently helping them come to power by obliterating the Cambodian countryside and swelling their ranks) as a counterweight to reunified Vietnam up until the 1990s. Here’s Secretary of State Kissinger speaking with Thai Foreign Minister Choonhavan on 26 November 1975, seven months after the fall of Phnom Penh:

    “What do the Cambodians think of the United States? You should tell them that we bear no hostility towards them. We would like them to be independent as a counterweight to North Vietnam.” (Kissinger 3)

    “You should also tell the Cambodians that we will be friends with them. They are murderous thugs, but we won’t let that stand in our way. We are prepared to improve relations with them.” (Kissinger 8)

    https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB193/

    (Scroll down to document 17.)

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