Hch: What genuinely puzzles

December 2025 Forums General discussion Leadership Hch: What genuinely puzzles

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stuartw2112
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Hch: What genuinely puzzles me is why the left cannot (or refuses to) understand our position. We understand yours perfectly well.Your position is that workers generally will not become socialists all by themselves, but will, at times, engage in struggle to protect their own interests. Therefore, socialists should organise into political parties that also engage in these struggles with the view of leading the workers to victory, in the first instance, and into support for the party in the second. As the party builds up such support, it will then be in a position to seize power on behalf of the working class and put in place ‘socialist’ (actually, state capitalist) measures.Now, as a broad brush and short statement, true or false?If true, why not do us the courtesy of understanding our position, even if you don’t agree with it? A similarly simple and broad brush statement of our position is this:Workers do not need any advice or leadership from socialists when it comes to struggling to defend their own interests within capitalism. They do it all by themselves all the time. However, such struggles have their limits within capitalism: they cannot go beyond the law of value, and the combined forces of the capitalists and the state can almost always defeat them if they put their mind to it. Workers who realise this tend to become socialists. As they become socialists, they see the necessity for going beyond such day to day struggles (these unavoidable and incessant guerilla battles, as Marx put it) and the need for a political party aimed solely for socialism. This political party must not advocate reforms, not because it is against reforms (how on earth could a working class party be against reforms in the working class interest?), but because it wants to build support for socialism, and not for reforms.Simples.