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ParticipantALB wrote:Who are these non-entities?haha yep. There was a program called Dinner with Portillo a few years ago, which was more serious than this.
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ParticipantAllegations have surfaced that Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC is paying $1m for trolls to disrupt the Sanders campaignhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4fupos/paid_digital_astroturfing_effort_by_correct_the/https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4fu7o0/subreddit_announcement_expected_influx_of/https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4fwwmf/hillary_clinton_spends_1_million_to_troll_sanders/
Quote:"Former PR worker here, 99% of our job is to convince people that something that is fucking them over is actually good for them. The whole concept of 'shills' has somehow became a conspiracy theory when in reality it's just PR workers who are paid by a company to defend their product/service. My last job was defending fracking.Anytime a post containing keywords was submitted to a popular website we where notified and it was our job to just list off talking points and debate the most popular comments. Fracking was an easy one to defend because you could paint people as anti-science if they where against it. The science behind fracking is sound and if done properly is safe, so you just focus on this point. You willfully ignore the fact that fracking is done by people who almost never do it properly and are always looking to cut corners. Your talking points usually contain branching arguments if people try to debate back. For example my next point would be to bring up that these companies are regulated so they couldn't cut corners or they would be fined, all the while knowing that these agencies are either underfunded or have been captured by the very industry they are trying to regulate.The final talking point, if someone called you out on all your counterpoints, was to simply try to paint them as a wackjob. Suggest they are crazy for thinking agencies who are suppose to protect them have been bought and paid for. Bring up lizard people to muddy the waters. A lot of people will quickly distance themselves from something if it is accused of being a conspiracy theory, and a lot of them are stupid enough that you can convince them that believing businesses conspiring to break the law to gain profit is literally the same as believing in aliens and bigfoot.Edit: Just to clarify I am not an expert in the field of fracking, I am just a PR worker who worked on a fracking campaign and used it as an example. I got into a few heated debates about fracking in replies to this comment and some things I said might be wrong because as I said I am not an expert. I don't want this to take away from the actual point of this comment which is to make people aware of PR workers and how they try to sway online discussions."jondwhite
ParticipantOccupied Times of London have run out of moneyhttps://theoccupiedtimes.org/?page_id=5263
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ParticipantA poster from Jacobin magazinehttps://www.jacobinmag.com/store/
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Participantalanjjohnstone wrote:What i find galling is that Socialist Studies members are in possession of much that is of value to the archives of the Party and have no intention of placing it into our safe-keeping.There is the banner, whether that belonged to Camden or North West London might be argued.They have around 180 audio tapes, but only a handful of these are recorded prior to 1991.Radio broadcasts and Interviews in the USA, C. May (1960)The scientific basis of socialism, H. Young (1960)Plus Feminism and Socialism A. Waters (1977)Marxian Economics, E. Hardy (1968)Why You Should be a Socialist, E. Hardy (1988)…
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ParticipantThey can be contacted by e-mail or letter.As it is 25 years might as well reopen discussion, but on the democratic conference decisions over use of the short form of the name, one of the arguments of those in the dissolved branches who departed was that Clause 8 of the Declaration of Principles stated 'The Socialist Party of Great Britain, therefore, enters the field of political action' and the short form name was in violation of this.There is some evidence that clauses can operate in this wayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternity_clause
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ParticipantFeel free to speak with them, but they I don't believe they are interested in returning.
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ParticipantA worthy question but Mimi Soltysik and the SPUSA aren't our companion party in the US, WSPUS are. Seehttp://En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_USA
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ParticipantAuto tune some speeches or splice them like cassetteboy
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ParticipantWhy do candidates court business if business owners only represent a small proportion of the electorate?
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ParticipantIt is as much about political use of twitter as it is about WSM.
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ParticipantLeft-wing Labour are in a better position to deliver on the reforms that non-socialist 'socialists' campaign for. This means even on the non-socialist 'socialists' terms, the non-socialist 'socialists' serve no political purpose except to 'push Labour left' when the Labour party have a right-wing Labour leadership. A Corbyn leadership is a stellar demonstration of these non-socialist 'socialists' futility. Still going on a demonstration gets you a bit of fresh air in your lungs I suppose.
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ParticipantWinston McKenzie, formerly of Labour, formerly of Liberal Democrats, formerly of Veritas, formerly of the Conservatives, formerly of the Unity Party, formerly Independent, formerly of Ukip.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_McKenzie
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ParticipantIs a retweeting of a Labour Party tweet seriously a breach of hostility?
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ParticipantNon-members think and express thoughts that might overlap with socialist ideas. Admittedly it is not widely known, but non-members have been printed before so it would not be a 'momentous change in editorial policy.'
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