WSM Multilingual
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July 1, 2025 at 7:30 pm #259333
Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantThere is a website of the WSM in New York, and I do not see any publications in different languages, specially in the Spanish language, and there are millions of Spanish speaking workers in New York, specially in Manhattan, Queens, and the Bronx, and thousands of them have been, or are members of working class organizations. Some of them were full time activists
The WSPUS website should also publish articles in different languages, and their internal discussion forum should be open to the public
As the peasants always say: It is not the same thing to call the devil, than seeing the devil coming toward you ( No es lo mismo llamar el diablo que verlo venir ) We do have a presence in the internet, but we are not using it properly, I repeat again: We are not hitting the candies of the Piñata.
That is a website for English speaking or white peoples only. although there are Jamaicans in New York who speak English, but they are a minority, and some of them were influenced by the reformist movement of Maurice Bishop, and there was a group that was also influenced by the Socialist Party and their publications are hidden in the WSM website.
I published all of them at several Diaspora discussion forum under Yahoo groups, nobody knew that there was a group in Latin America that was not influenced by Fidel Castro, Maurice Bishop, and Ernesto Guevara, and it has been the only group with real socialist foundations in Latin America.
July 1, 2025 at 8:08 pm #259335ste finch
ParticipantCompañero,
sabes que existe worldsocialist.org ¿no? tiene paginas en ingles y español
y ¿como se llama este grupo sin influencia castrista-guevarista?July 2, 2025 at 11:50 pm #259361Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantFinch
I know that, that website was set up by Matt. I have been dealing with this issue since 1987
July 3, 2025 at 12:25 am #259362ste finch
ParticipantComrade
I was referring to worldsocialisT.org not worldsocialisM.org, (¡ojo con la ortografia!) which the companion parties launched on 1 May this year. The Spanish pages are mostly the translation you did a while ago.July 3, 2025 at 1:00 am #259363Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantIt is the same thing, it is using the translations from the World Socialist Movement. I am talking about something else.
All those translations were posted by Matt and Alan. Matt was publishing the Socialist Standard and other articles on five Spanish Discussion forums which had a lot of activities thru Yahoo group.
He has been one of the best moderator and internet technician.
Before 1987 the SPGB/WSM was unknown in Latin America It is a very old issue.
I do not want to go into details in a public forum.
The other group that I was referring to, it is from Jamaica, they did not have the resources and manpower to continue.
The SPC had one member in the Dominican Republic and SPGB had one member in Spain.
The ICC is from France and they have a lot of members in Latin America.
https://es.internationalism.org
The WSWS ( France/USA ) has members all over Latin America and they have a daily newspaper published in three languages
https://www.laizquierdadiario.com
The things is not to have a good theory, the main problem is go get the message across and to get out of the box, like I said before, the issue is to be able to hit the candies of the Piñata. The main topic of this forum is Russia, Eurocentrism.
Check the statistic of Manhattan, Queens and Bronx, just check all the working class organizations that they have just in Manhattan
July 3, 2025 at 10:52 am #259365ste finch
ParticipantThanks Comrade
It is obvious that we need to do something about our lack of impact with Spanish speakers.
If you have any concrete suggestions for spreading the message (e.g where to advertise to attract Spanish speakers to our online propaganda and online meetings) please send them to spgb.asstsec@worldsocialism.org. I will forward any ideas to the WSM management committeeJuly 3, 2025 at 5:48 pm #259373Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantFinch
I am not going to waste my time.
I already paid my dues.
This organization is not ready for that type of mission or objectives. The SPGB/WSM has the correct theory but It can not propagate it. I am here because I have not found anything better
I have tried and nobody wants to join the SPGB or the WSM, and if they do they will leave immediately, the party will abandon them, the party does not know how to keep their members
At the present time workers are only preoccupied on reformism, to worship leaders, nationalism, putting politicians in jails, worshipping commandants, heroes, and bullshits.
DSA is getting a lot of young peoples because it is like a social club, it does not have any social or marxist substance, just look at the requirements for membership
I have had Blogs, forums,( yahoo, groups IO, google ) Facebook, twitter, mastodon, WordPress, chats etc etc, and nothing happened, struggling every days with stupid memes and pornography, erasing irrelevant publications, receiving threats from right wingers, spams
Just look at Argentina, a country with so many working class organizations, and they elected a guy like Milei, and Brasil is the same case, they elected a reactionary right winger, in Chile workers are going to elect the pro Pinochet, and the left became a disaster, in Uruguay there are groups who are supporting Milei.
The old working class fervor of the 60 is gone, this is a changed world, as the peasants say: Tenemos que arar con estos bueyes (we have to plow with these oxen ) We have to use what we have until workers decide to establish a new society
In the USA workers blinded by nationalism they voted against their own interests, they do not care if they lose their medical coverage, or others workers and children die, the class struggle is gone
In my personal server I have more than 300 new translations I have not published them, I am retiring to my finquita
We are getting old and we are not getting new blood, it was the same case of the SLP, most of their members were senior, elderly and old peoples and it dies, and they had two branches in Latin America
Just look at the WSM websites on the Internet, nothing of substance, memes, stupidity from Tik Tok.
As someone that I knew said: We are going to experiment a huge ideological retrogression
July 3, 2025 at 6:45 pm #259375ste finch
ParticipantUnderstood. We’ll just have to try to get by without you then.
July 9, 2025 at 1:03 pm #259461Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantUnderstood. We’ll just have to try to get by without you then.
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Too old to be fooled. If you look at the internet website of the WSM you will see that the administrators do not allow any messages in any foreign languages. The facts contradict your efforts, therefore, separated websites in foreign languages must be created by individuals members, how do you call yourselves World Socialist Movement ? It is a contradiction. It is just a British/English group . How do you open a political dialogue when all messages are filtered ? Go to the websites of the leftwing groups and they are publishing documents in several languages, and they have members that speaks several languages too. Just look at this one which was formed a few years ago, and they are translating their own articles in more than 20 languages, and they have contacts and correspondents in different parts of the world, probably China too
https://en.internationalism.org This is the same case, and they publish articles covering events that are taking place in several countries and they travel to other countries to form branches
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July 10, 2025 at 10:40 am #259468ste finch
ParticipantComrade, this thread is about worldsocialist.org,
which has been set up upon the decision of the companion parties.
You don’t want to waste your time helping with it, you wrote. Your choice of course. But if you decide to discuss worldsocialist.org, please check the facts before you do so.July 10, 2025 at 12:56 pm #259470Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantI know the facts , and I have been dealing with facts for many years, I have been on this situation for many years before the companion parties tried to do it, and I was doing it myself, and also the companion parties are dead. We are just using the articles that have been already been translated, nothing new is been added. I rest my case
November 2, 2025 at 8:52 pm #261231Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantNo existen autobuses gratuitos ( Socialist Standard 11/25 )
The economic reality is going to show him and his followers that a leader can not change the economic base of any class society, and that there is nothing free within the capitalist society. That reform has been tried in other places, and they have failed. Some universities had free transportation for their students, and some were forced to eliminate the program
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November 2, 2025 at 11:44 pm #261233Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantMost Socialist Party pamphlets like this one have been translated into Spanish, Portuguese and French
November 4, 2025 at 1:28 pm #261257Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantWell, there are more than 7 websites publishing articles and pamphlets from the Socialist Party, World Socialist Movement, in different languages.
https://bsky.app/profile/movimientosocialis.bsky.social
https://mastodon.social/@publicacionespoloticasyecono
https://www.facebook.com/groups/713297011781469
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61569616352095
https://www.facebook.com/groups/898984151243744
https://publicacionespoliticasyeconomicas.blogspot.com
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November 4, 2025 at 1:44 pm #261264Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantEvery month from the Socialist Standard, we are going to translate one or two important articles in Spanish, French and Portuguese
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