Trump as president again?
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Google: Adolf Hitler paid tribute to Gustav Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach, the head of the Krupp industrial empire, during a visit to the Krupp ammunition plant on August 13, 1940. Historical footage from this visit shows Hitler shaking hands with Krupp and interacting with him, acknowledging the crucial role of German industrialists in rearmament.
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Key context regarding Hitler’s relationship with the Krupp family:
Visit to Essen: Hitler visited the Krupp works in Essen, Germany, to pay tribute to Gustav Krupp.
Support for Rearmament: Krupp, along with other German industrialists, was vital to Nazi war efforts, and Hitler relied on them for military production.
70th Birthday: Earlier, on another occasion, Hitler visited Gustav Krupp at his estate near Essen to mark his 70th birthday.
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While Hitler frequently used populist rhetoric during visits to the factory, promising that he stood by the workers, his visits to the owners and industrialists were focused on solidifying the alliance between the Nazi party and industrial power.
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+1Not so Nordic.
Google: “During World War II, the Auschwitz concentration and extermination camp network functioned as a massive site of forced labor and resource exploitation, yielding direct financial and material profit for the Nazi regime and supporting German industrial corporations.”
Auschwitz and Operation Reinhardt were capitalist enterprises, not something external to capitalism.
The left-wingers are comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Both individuals represent capitalism under different contexts and under different circumstances, and without them, capitalism would have existed in the same context and within the same circumstances. Leftwingers are idealists and ideologists.
The same idea can be applied to Joseph Stalin, even more, Stalin gave the green light to Molotov to become part of the Axis, and the alliance did not take place, but the soviet union became a part of the allied
As someone wrote in another forum, Trump has done a great favour to mankind by openly showing the real nature of capitalism; they are not advocating for human rights, national sovereignty, or constitutional rights any more, they have practically eliminated the UN clauses.
Many dictators ( including Nazis and fascists ) in the past respected diplomacy, embassies, nation-states, the Geneva Convention, and political exiles.
The President of Colombia said: We are reaching the end of the nation-state. The Nazis and the Fascists advocated for extreme nationalism
” Trump has done a great favour to mankind by openly showing the real nature of capitalism; they are not advocating for human rights, national sovereignty, or constitutional rights any more, they have practically eliminated the UN clauses.”
But will they not put the mask of legitimacy back on when Trump’s term ends?
The ceasefire between Iran and the USA will not last too long. Israel continues attacking Lebanon, and they are part of the deal
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/trump-ceasefireAn Unlikely (and Unstable) Ceasefire Deal and Trump’s Iran Blunder
The ceasefire’s durability will hinge on whether Trump can restrain Israel from undermining the diplomatic track. On this point, there should be no illusions.
TRITA PARSI
Apr 08, 2026
Common DreamsYesterday began with Donald Trump issuing genocidal threats against Iran on social media and ended—just ten hours later—with the announcement of a 14-day ceasefire, on Iran’s terms. Even by the volatile standards of Trump’s presidency, the whiplash is extraordinary. What, then, have the two sides actually agreed to—and what might it mean?
TM – Your ideas defy Marx somewhat when he said that: ‘Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past”. As I said, the second world war was inevitable as the resolution of the unresolved issues of the first world war. But for most Germans at the time antisemitism was not a major issue – it was Hitler that made it so. I do wish you’d modify your didactic approach to debates – I suggest that my knowledge of the Reformation and the second world war is at least as good as your own. You have complained in the past about your inability to communicate with the working class – perhaps this is why? Sometimes I think your love of ‘isms’ gets in the way of your historical understanding.
CDM says: ‘The left-wingers are comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Both individuals represent capitalism under different contexts and under different circumstances…’
So you see no parallels with the past at all? Didn’t Marx say ‘that history repeats itself first as a tragedy and second as a farce.’.Any nationalist the capitalist class chose to employ in Germany then would have offered the workers a scapegoat, and, being central Europe, that scapegoat was certainly going to be the Jews. The developments therefrom would have been the same, even without Hitler.
The Nazis were elected by the workers, and Hitler was working class. The avowedly “anti-capitalist” working class Nazis, such as Röhm &c., who disliked Hitler’s flirting with big business, were anti-semitic too, and the SA had over a million members, all “lumpen” (in the popular sense) proletarians.
So how was the working class not full of anti-semites? The narrative that the Jews “were to blame” was an old narrative, which Hitler, like other nationalists, made use of as a rallying call. Who answers rallying calls? Those they attract!TM – ‘is Marx a god?’, ‘I seem to remember you had the notion Lutheranism was bourgeois?’, ‘So how was the working class not full of anti-semites?’
There you go again – where do you get all of this nonsense? As the Buddha could have told you: man is greater than any of the gods he has created, Luther was a monk and unemployment, national ‘shame’ and inflation were far more important to the German working class (including the so called middle class petit bourgeois) than antisemitism.They would have gone for any scapegoat, but it wasn’t much point in 1930s Germany scapegoating black people or Asians, was it?
In what am I speaking nonsense?
Hitler’s government was able, thanks to a militarization boom, to make jobs and raise living standards.
And what’s your point on Lutheranism? It was reactionary, not bourgeois. It was anti-centralisation.
TM – Both the proto-protestants Hus and Wycliffe were persecuted and failed whereas Luther had the protection of Frederick III because he found Luther’s heresy politically helpful in his struggle with the Holy Roman Empire. Thus Protestantism and a myriad of other reformist sects were born and among them, of course, were the English Puritans who provided the ideology for Cromwell’s revolution. Therefore although Luther himself was a reactionary his break with Rome had a decisive impact on the English Reformation and the subsequent rise of the Puritans. It is nonsense that you think I considered Luther as bourgeois. It is also nonsense that I think of Marx as a ‘god’ since I believe he was a greater entity than any deity. In debates like this one Marx almost always has something interesting to say. It is also nonsense to suggest that all Germans of the 1930s were antisemitic.
CDM says: ‘The left-wingers are comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Both individuals represent capitalism under different contexts and under different circumstances…’
So you see no parallels with the past at all? Didn’t Marx say ‘that history repeats itself first as a tragedy and second as a farce.’
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If it is a farce, it is not equal, ( Marx did not say that the past was equal to present, it was a farce ) and the left-wingers are saying that Trump is equal to Hitler; therefore, we can say that Stalin was equal to Hitler, too, ( it was not equal and the reality was different too ) and most of them support Stalin, wars and violence, as a journalist wrote: Fascism comes in two forms, fascism and anti fascism, and the anti fascists are as violent as the fascists, and the socialists has self evident of that during W W 2The Nazis enacted many reforms for the working class, including infrastructure and social services like the rest of the European social democrats, and the government of Trump is the opposite; therefore, they are not equal. The Nazis, in certain aspects, paid respect to the Geneva Convention, and Trump does not.
Hitler was surprised when Berlin was bombarded by the British because they did not want to bombard civilians, but it was a mistake made by a German pilot who bombarded London, and the British responded to the attack, and then both continued the bombardments. Trump does not care about bombarding civilians or civilian infrastructure, ambulances, war journalists, and schools; therefore, they are not equal.
The Allies bombarded two cities, where they killed more people than the two bombs dropped in Japan, and the leftwingers define fascism as wars and racism only, and before the emergence of fascism, the western powers had killed more civilians than the Nazis, and they had concentration camps, racist camps, and racial oppression, the Gulap was not different to the German concentration camps, and they have eliminated one important element of fascism which is extreme nationalism and they are nationalists too, and none of them qualify to be called anti fascists when they also support the dictaatorship of one party which is another element of fascism and nazism.
For the left-wingers, imperialism is only one country, which is false too, and that country is the US only, and the head of that empire is Trump, and it is known that imperialism includes all the capitalist countries. Trump has followed, and he has continued the policies of prior governments, including deportation, and until now, he can not beat Barack Obama and Joe Biden on deportationsYour case does not hold water, and it is invalid. Fascism and Nazism are two particular forms adopted by capitalism that existed in Germany and Italy. The US Neo Nazis do not even have a clue about what nazism really was, and they are just town groups of unemployed workers who are against the establishment, but they are not against capitalism, and they do not have the scientific knowledge that the Nazis had.
Ironically, one of those so called nazis groups, the head of that group is a Cuban black man, and the left-wingers are saying that one of the main characteristics of Nazism is racism, and it is known that racism was created by the ruling class, and it does not make any difference if they are white, black, brown, red or asians, many blacks, asians and latinos voted for trumps, and trump did not hide what he was going to do, they knew about his capitalist policies
In some places in Europe, the workers saw the Nazis as the liberators instead of the Soviet Union because, for them, the Soviets were more brutal than the Nazis, and they had opposition during the invasions, and they did not liberate anybody; new bosses took over the domination of the world, including the soviets.
This is the best historical definition of fascism and anti fascism
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