SLP (US) Election Broadcast
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October 8, 2012 at 10:42 am #81586
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ParticipantI just found the following video – an SLP (US) Election Broadcast:
October 8, 2012 at 3:39 pm #90132ALB
KeymasterSomeone has just put this other SLP of America one on our Facebook page:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iulqp9xlCFg&feature=relmfuIn those days most workers in Britain didn't have a TV.
October 8, 2012 at 6:36 pm #90133Ozymandias
ParticipantAre there any articles concerning the SPGB stance towards the SLP? I believe the SLP thought that the working class could abolish Capitalism by means of union action. What were the problems the SPGB saw in this position? Cheers Ray
October 8, 2012 at 8:32 pm #90134Anonymous
InactiveThese articles will be of interest:-www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1910s/1914/no-118-june-19…http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1910s/1918/no-162-…http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1990s/1990/no-1029…http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2000s/2009/no-1262-october-2009/slp-america-premature-obituary
October 8, 2012 at 10:40 pm #90135Ozymandias
ParticipantThank you Gnome. Have read everything. V interesting. Esp the article by Adam. God what a goldmine there is in the Standard back catalogue! Cheers Ray
October 9, 2012 at 6:59 am #90136ALB
KeymasterAnybody listening to these broadcasts can see that us and them come from the same stable. We both reject advocating reforms, we reject the lesser evil argument and we say that socialism (as we understand it) is the only way out. In other words, we're both impossiblists.Where we diverge is on two points:1. Over which is more important: economic power or political power? We have always argued that the capitalists own because they control political power, so the working class should be aiming at taking this away from them before taking over production. The SLP implied that the capitalists controlled political power because they owned the means of production, so that the workers should aim at dislodging them from the factories. We both agreed that both industrial and political action was necessary, but put a different emphasis on them, we giving priority to political action, they to industrial action2. Their blueprint for socialism which involved a "government" (their term) formed from and run by industrial unions (basically syndicalism) and with labour-time vouchers.I don't know that these differences would be as important today as they once were. We certainly have more in common than divides us, as the political broadcasts show.
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