Russian Tensions

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  • #261509
    paula.mcewan
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    Hopefully we’re not on the eve of destruction

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    #261511
    ALB
    Keymaster

    You’ve chosen TM’s favourite (cracked) record there.

    #261525
    Thomas_More
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    #261526
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    ” You’ve chosen TM’s favourite (cracked) record there.”

    Just wait until after Geneva tomorrow. They’ll get at Trump, and the weapons will keep flowing into Ukraine.

    #261557
    Citizenoftheworld
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    ” You’ve chosen TM’s favourite (cracked) record there.”

    Just wait until after Geneva tomorrow. They’ll get at Trump, and the weapons will keep flowing into Ukraine.

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    The European powers also want a piece of the fruitcake, like the USA and the Russian capitalist class. There’s no goring among oxen. The USA already lost this proxy war, and on Sunday, Russia attacked Ukraine again

    #261562
    Citizenoftheworld
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    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/11/24/jaon-n24.html

    Europe’s hysterical war propaganda is not driven by any real military threat facing Europe but by the imperialist interests and anti-democratic political agenda of European capitalism. The European Union has more than three times Russia’s population of 143 million and more than seven times its economy of approximately US$2 trillion. Russian forces have neither the capacity nor the intention to conquer Europe.

    By waging the Ukraine war, the European powers hope to enforce both their commercial and military interests in Eurasia, and—inextricably bound up with this—an ultra-reactionary political climate at home. Fully 89 per cent of Western Europeans opposed sending troops to Ukraine, and there was explosive social anger at pension cuts and other austerity measures used to fund the war. Yet the war proceeded, plunging US and European governments ever deeper into debt, and working-class opposition to war was politically suppressed.

    #261563
    Thomas_More
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    And the Three Stooges have again turned the tables, which we shall see. The Trump document has been rewritten so that Russia cannot possibly agree to it. Ergo, Russia will be the one that rejected it, and Trump’s ire will again be against Russia. This time, Tomahawks will be again on the agenda.

    #261564
    Thomas_More
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    ” The European Union has more than three times Russia’s population of 143 million and more than seven times its economy of approximately US$2 trillion. Russian forces have neither the capacity nor the intention to conquer Europe.”

    Which means it is in the interests of the EU and UK warmongers precisely to cause a war with Russia! Their political posts are on the line otherwise. They will continue to rearm over the next year or two, and then start a war; not Russia, but Europe, will kick it off. This is why they are saying war will come by 2028 or 2030 at the latest.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20251124/eus-ukraine-plan-a-non-starter-aimed-at-prolonging-the-proxy-war-with-russia-1123162718.html

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    #261595
    Thomas_More
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    I think the conditions for world war are all there. The two main theatres, Europe and Asia, are already priming.

    #261605
    Thomas_More
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    #261607
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    Voilà!

    And this time, Ukraine will get its Tomahawk missiles.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-peace-trump-live-updates-b2871404.html

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    #261633
    Citizenoftheworld
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    Russia not in the loop, according to Peskov.

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    That agreement was made by Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin in Alaska, and then it was confirmed in Florida with officials from Russia and the USA in October. It was not made public until November, and the government of Ukraine did not know about it.

    Zelensky will be forced to sign it because there is an American investigation committee that investigated him and some of his officials about corruption and money embezzlement, and several Ukrainian officials have been forced to leave.

    If he does not accept the proposal, he would be forced to follow the same path; they are holding him by the balls, and the European Union, which knew about the corruption, would be forced to pay 50% of the reconstruction of Ukraine.

    The territories that Russia wants to keep were under its dominion before the war, and most citizens of those places want to be part of Russia, and Russia is getting what it wanted since the very beginning, and the USA is going to obtain large profits from the Ukrainian natural resources.

    Russia has been able to develop some modern weapons that the Western powers and the USA do not have at present, including weapons that can produce a big tsunami

    #261635
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    I guess we shall see.

    So why did Rubio and Witkoff bother to entertain the UK, Ukrainian and EU reps in Geneva? Why did they bother to waste two days drafting a new proposal that Russia cannot agree to and has already rejected?

    Europe triumphant:

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    #261679
    Citizenoftheworld
    Participant

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-peace-deal-trump-driscoll-abu-dhabi-talks-latest/

    Ukraine agrees to peace proposal, with only “minor details” to settle, official says, but no word from Russia
    By Camilla Schick, Margaret Brennan, James LaPorta, Nancy Cordes
    Updated on: November 25, 2025 / 3:14 PM EST / CBS News

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy95jvw57v2o

    #261680
    Thomas_More
    Participant

    The “minor details” are the major ones, which have been excised from the original, 28-paragraph document, and which Ukraine have not agreed to: the very points insisted upon by Russia.

    I tell you, the Europeans have pulled it off again, and the ball will be in Russia’s court, and Trump will again be in Ukraine’s camp, with Putin the pariah.

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