Russian Tensions

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  • #258551
    Citizenoftheworld
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    Libraries cleared.

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    Nationalism and patriotism is like rat poison

    The Nazis are not the only ones that destroyed books, the thing is that peoples are not going to libraries or reading books, why are they removing or burning them ?

    I read all kind of books I do not care if the authors are from Mars. or from different political organizations or political tendencies

    Peoples are worshipping presidents, state ministers, and wars heroes.

    Universities and scientific research are a new target of the capitalist class

    #258557
    Citizenoftheworld
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    European capitalist class rearming. Pretty soon, the European working class is going to lose all their social benefits, such as medical services, education, vacations, unemployment benefits, pensions, etc, etc. All the false bourgeois illusions about reforms are going to collapse, and the reality will be shown that the bourgeois class is not a friend or companion of the working class. Class conciliation only produces defeats for the working class

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/05/27/vfzn-m27.html

    #258558
    Thomas_More
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    I am considered an alarmist here. However, I would be cautious about pronouncements on the Leninist site you link to. Especially with talk of “fascism”, which is an obsession with Leninist leftists, as “Nazism” is constantly being heard from Moscow.

    Yes, services and “benefits” are being cut, and the Leyen-Macron-Merz-UK mob are militarizing, but for what actual purpose is not really clear: ostensibly to keep the Kiev regime standing.

    What I would like to see here however, instead of contemptuous (?) silence at my own alarmism, is a proper SPGB analysis based on Socialist awareness, as opposed to Leftist “Fascism is on the march!” hysteria from a Bolshevist website.

    #258560
    Citizenoftheworld
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    What is wrong with publishing the point of view of other organizations in this forum? We do it all the time, and we publish our articles and point of view on the websites and forums of various organizations, including those of Leninists, Stalinists, Trotskyists, Maoists, and some right-wing groups as well.

    We are not 100% correct either. and we do not have a monopoly of ideas and arguments

    Through critiques, we can get the best part of any argument and reject the incorrect ones.

    The Facebook page of the SP/WSM is getting a lot of articles from left-wing groups.

    If George Bush writes a book saying that Iraq was for oil, are we going to reject that argument because it was written by Bush?

    In that article, they have indicated that the European working class is going to experience many austerities due to the use of state resources for weapons

    #258562
    Thomas_More
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    That is true, and so are many things on that site. I’m just saying we should be cautious too.

    Talk of “fascism” and “Nazism” only confuses things.

    I too am pessimistic, but I would rather trust the analysis of those who really understand the reality than those waxing hysterical over what’s on the surface and following Leninist ideology.

    #258563
    Citizenoftheworld
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    Some members of the socialist party also holds the traditional view and definition of fascism and nazism.

    The only left-wing groups that do not hold a Leninist point of view are the anarchists, and they also hold the traditional definition of fascism and nazism and think that fascism is present in our time.

    The socialist party has had public discussions with Nazis and fascists and Leftwingers groups

    This is a Leninist group with a different view on fascism and anti fascism

    https://en.internationalism.org/content/17669/bourgeoisie-trying-lure-working-class-trap-anti-fascism

    #258565
    Thomas_More
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    Members of the Socialist Party can be wrong about things, of course.

    And I agree that “Anti-fascists” are “fascistic”, using thuggery to silence the voicing of opinions they don’t like. The “Communists” were fascists. Both Mussolini’s and Hitler’s immediate precursors were as much leftist as rightist. Both called themselves “socialists” according to their own shallow definition, the same as leftists and some labourites do today. Ernst Rōhm’s SA was vociferously proletarian and in its own eyes “anti-capitalist.”

    #258568
    Thomas_More
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    It is the parties traditionally called “neo-Nazi”, “fascist” and ultra-nationalist that are opposing EU militarization and warmongering, and having their votes quashed by the “democratic” and “liberal” states.

    How does that fit?

    #258569
    Thomas_More
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    Merz’s march to global war.

    #258570
    Thomas_More
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    So, whereas under Biden, European states had to await permission from the US before using longer-range missiles, under Trump they are making these decisions themselves?

    So Trump is weak, or he has secretly authorised Merz to send Taurus to Ukraine?

    Trump appears to have no power over NATO or Europe, and it’s now a military free for all. He either has no wish to reach a deal on Ukraine, or he is powerless to rein Europe in, and the US is not in charge any more.

    #258572
    Thomas_More
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    Trump to consider ending restrictions on support for Kiev and considering more sanctions on Russia.
    Meanwhile, Russian media head says Berlin could be a target if Taurus used.

    https://meduza.io/en/news/2025/05/27/trump-considering-lifting-biden-era-restrictions-on-ukraine-s-military-operations-kyiv-post

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    #258577
    Thomas_More
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    Black Sea.

    #258583
    Thomas_More
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    Complete turnaround. Trump to fill Europe with troops and reinforce against Russia.

    #258585
    BrianE
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    what about the military bravado of Putin? what is wrong with you? Putin winning would be like ultra-nationalist hitler winning, guess you are not bothered?

    #258586
    BrianE
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    It is ethically repulsive and rationally short-sighted to view as ‘bourgeois fantasy’ the cold-blooded murder of working ppl in Bucha and many other places in Ukraine by the russian invaders.
    It is also the Kremlin line.
    It is also the line of left-wingers

    It is the analysis of Solovyov to say that “Europeans leaders are playing with a power that is stronger and more powerful than them.”

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