Russia and the Middle East
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August 15, 2025 at 6:45 pm #260126
ALB
KeymasterLord Palmerston put it rather well in 1848 when he was Foreign Secretary:
“We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow.”
He later became Prime Minister. No ‘deep state’ was needed to tell him what policies to pursue. He already knew.
August 15, 2025 at 6:47 pm #260127Thomas_More
ParticipantYes, and no nattering about “democracy” and “freedom” either. Just brazen grabbing.
August 15, 2025 at 7:03 pm #260128Thomas_More
ParticipantViolence part and parcel of conspiralunacy.
A flat-earther told me “We need to be armed”, while a leftist said “We must kill all the capitalists.’
I explained that even if you killed every capitalist and every politician, capitalism would remain the system of society. She just humphed me and walked away.
(She now believes humans lived alongside dinosaurs 4,000 years ago, and told me to study the facts. The flat-earther put my denial of the Earth being flat being due to my being a recluse. “If you got out and about, you’d know the Earth is flat, instead of wasting your life reading books!”)August 15, 2025 at 7:11 pm #260129ALB
KeymasterIf there really were a ‘deep state’ what would be the point of socialists trying to win an election? It wouldn’t give the majority of socialist delegates in the central law-making body control of the state. It would justify the insurrectionists’ view that the only way to overthrow capitalism would be to smash the capitalist state in a violent uprising.
August 15, 2025 at 7:17 pm #260130Thomas_More
ParticipantWhich is what Leninistas, Maoists, and conspiraloons try to do. (When they succeed, their tyranny is worse!)
“At least my friend (biting a copper’s wrist while rolling on the ground) is doing something! What are you socialists doing?”
August 16, 2025 at 12:02 am #260131Wez
ParticipantHas it not been a long standing aim of the US to destabilize Russia with the aim of regime change? Presidents come and go but the quest for global hegemony remains. Who makes these long-term plans if not some consistently murky group within the establishment?
September 2, 2025 at 11:46 pm #260344Citizenoftheworld
ParticipantThe bourgeois press is not telling the truth to their readers
Iran was caught off guard during the first strike by Israel, they were counting on a meeting that they were going to have with the US, and many of his officials and scientists slept in their own private residence and were killed. They did the same attack as the Japanese in Pearl Harbor which was also a surprise attack .
The USA knew in advance about the attack and they provided logistic information to the Israeli army, and Iranian air defense were not completely destroyed and the damages were immediately repaired
The Iranian missiles which are hypersonic missiles were able to penetrate and avoid Israel air defense system and they were able to destroy many military targets including air defenses, F-35 aircrafts, and they were able to prove that Israel system have weakness and that their famous air defenses are not so effective and that their supply of missiles is limited compared to thousands of missiles that Iran has in reserve,
They need the military backup of the US because they can be defeated by the advanced Iranian forces and they can run out of missiles.
It is not true that the Iranian people want to overthrow the government, on the contrary, they do not trust the US or Israel and they might end up providing support to the actual government, and some Iranian government enemies might become their friends.
The US government is holding a hot potato in their hands because this war can become a regional war and their forces can be also attacked and can be destroyed by islamic terrorists, in fact, the US has 40,000 troops in different military bases around the area.
The US has already dispatched a battalion to the Middle East of aircrafts carriers, destroyers, warplanes, bombers and troops.
There are some reports indicating that Chinese airplanes were flown to Iran probably carrying military hardware, and it is known that Russia, China and Iran have signed a treaty of military collaboration.
The US was defeated in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan by a less professional army compared to the Iranians, and Iran is not the same as Libya, Grenada, Haiti, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt, and others countries that the US have invaded, and the attacks that Israel carried in Egypt, Lebanon and others countries where they obtained a victory were also done by surprise and they were also weakened.
The geography of Iran is different to others countries in the Middle East and they have high mountains and its army have been trained in guerrilla warfare and they have a population of 90 millions and the size of the country is closer to the size of Eastern Europe, and the US army and the Israel army is not prepared to confront that type of war–
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