July 13, 2015 at 2:43 am #90899
Another bit of info for those interested in the topic http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20150712000106&cid=1102China remained the world's largest market for robots in 2014, as it absorbed 56,000 units or 24.9% of total global sales. South Korea came in as the No. 2 robot consumer with 39,000 units in 2014, followed by Japan, the US and Germany, with the top five markets together taking 75% of global robot sales.August 18, 2015 at 7:10 pm #90900OzymandiasParticipant
"Technology has created more jobs in the last 144 years than it has destroyed, Deloitte study finds."Is this true? I don't know enough about it.http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/technology-creates-more-jobs-than-it-destroys-10460880.html August 19, 2015 at 1:55 am #90901
As the report goes on to sayQuote:“Fears that automation is keeping companies from hiring new workers and exacerbating income inequality are overblown, in part because the oft-repeated productivity gains from information technology are often illusory in the first place.”
my emphasisAugust 19, 2015 at 7:57 am #90902
The point of worry, though, is when robots are amply able to do the job of the service industry, where do the displaced workers go then? Also, since this report covers the period of the extensive growth of employmenti t's naturally going to find growth of employment despite evlopment of machinery, since there was more amchinery being used. (though this report does admirably illustrate how we could all work a lot less if we just did productive jobs and then looked after ourselves in abundant free time).August 19, 2015 at 8:29 am #90903
Anyway, this is stunning news:http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/18/first-almost-fully-formed-human-brain-grown-in-lab-researchers-claimQuote:An almost fully-formed human brain has been grown in a lab for the first time, claim scientists from Ohio State University. The team behind the feat hope the brain could transform our understanding of neurological disease.
As someone in the wee small hours on the radio suggested, aside from the medicinal benefits, could we see such less-than-consciouss brains being linked up to computers to create thinking and learning machines?August 20, 2015 at 9:44 am #90904
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33998697Carbon gained from air[/quote] we can grow carbon with a little bit of sunlight, we've become plants! As the article says, I think that it would be a ridiculous effort to use this *directly* to combat AGW, but if the process to gain carbon for industrial uses becomes widespread, it will induce greenhouse reduction over =d decades the same way we have emitted CO2, and we'd have loads of nanotubes…October 5, 2015 at 3:35 am #90905
An interview worth taking the time to readhttp://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33082-more-leisure-less-capitalism-thanks-to-techQuote:You think capitalism is going to end?Yes. Which doesn't mean that I think exploitative, hierarchical, social structures are going to end. I just think that what we have thought of as capitalism, based primarily on the exploitation of wage labor to make profit, is going to turn into something else.
I'm not convincedOctober 12, 2015 at 8:49 am #90906Quote:Type your job title into the search box below to find out the likelihood that it could be automated within the next two decades.
So, a 52% chance my job could be qutomated away, they reckon, in the next 20 years….lovely.October 13, 2015 at 3:28 am #90907
You may find this of interesthttp://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/10/12/robots-are-coming-your-job-might-not-be-bad-newsWhich i have clumsily adapted and re-edited for our blog here http://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2015/10/do-androids-dream-of-three-day-week.htmlOctober 19, 2015 at 11:53 pm #90908
Robotics – the two futureshttps://www.rt.com/uk/319078-robots-fix-street-lights/https://www.rt.com/news/319082-russia-military-artificial-intelligence/October 21, 2015 at 12:32 am #90909
Have strayed from the original theme but i readQuote:“You’re going to see them being used in domestic policing, border patrol, riot control, not just armed conflict,” Steve Goose, director of Human Rights Watch’s arms division, told the Guardian. “The physical platforms already exist. It’s not science fiction, it’s a completely new way of fighting that revolutionizes all of this.”October 24, 2015 at 5:37 am #90910
Maybe this thread should be renamed just roboticsI found this articlehttp://netdugout.com/2015/10/global-agricultural-robot-market-size-exceed-to-reach-16-3-billion-by-2020/The application of robots in farming and the potential they offer and the anti-pollution possibilities in pesticide and fertilising.October 24, 2015 at 11:33 am #90911AnonymousInactivealanjjohnstone wrote:Maybe this thread should be renamed just robotics
Ah well that brings up the subject of 'Espee' . Isn't it time we set up a sub committee to look into this https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/world-socialist-movement/first-socialist-robotOctober 24, 2015 at 7:24 pm #90912AnonymousInactive
Well you may laugh but the tories already have their robotNovember 5, 2015 at 10:33 am #90913
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/05/robot-revolution-rise-machines-could-displace-third-of-uk-jobsAnother report on the guesstimates of how many jobs will disappear because of robotics.35% of all workers in the UK, and 47% of those in the US, at risk of being displaced by technology over the next 20 years, according to Oxford University research cited in the report, with job losses likely to be concentrated at the bottom of the income scale.At present, there are on average 66 robots per 10,000 workers worldwide, the report finds; but in the highly automated Japanese car sector there are 1,520.“We are in danger, for the first time in history, of creating a large number of people who are not needed,” he said. “The question should be, what sort of economy do you want, and to meet what human needs?”
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