Israel strikes Iran militaries and nuclear sites
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If US capital requires this war (and I agree it wouldn’t matter who was President), why is it that only a few of US capitalism’s political representatives are openly supporting it and applauding Trump for it? Are the rest brilliant and convincing actors, happy that Trump is the fall guy for what they secretly wanted themselves, and milking his big “faux pas” for what isn’t a faux pas?
Happy that they
1) have got what they want, and
2) even better: don’t have to take the fall for what they knew would be an unpopular war, and can pass it all onto Trump the sap.Is this so?
From Al Jazeera:
Israel’s campaign in Iran seen as big win at home for Netanyahu and army
Orly Noy, editor of the independent Hebrew-language Local Call news site, says there is broad support among Jewish Israelis for Israel’s attacks on Iran despite the retaliation they have provoked.“Netanyahu has been building up Iran as the ultimate demon of the world for so many years, so I think in a way now he’s enjoying the fruits of that campaign,” Noy told Al Jazeera.
“There is for sure fear. But at the same time, this attack allowed not just Netanyahu, but the Israeli army to really very quickly rehabilitate their broken image after more than 20 months of this war of annihilation in Gaza that doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.”
The army, whose image had faltered as more reservists refused to serve in Gaza, is now seeing a boost in recruitment, Noy explained.
“Netanyahu enjoys bigger support, the army for sure has restored its image. There is fear, but there is also incredible trust in the army.”
Our blog says the US and Israel want regime change in Iran because, among other things, a friendly Iran would facilitate military action from the south against Russia.
So, are we still saying a nuclear holocaust isn’t on the cards and that the weapons are only for deterrence?
Unless they are already in direct war with Russia when Iran falls, they’ll be looking for a Central Asian southern Russian region in which to foment a Ukraine-type scenario. Or, they may already be looking at Xinjian for fomenting anti-Beijing sentiment there.
Either way, isn’t it more likely that by then the nuclear buttons will have been pressed?
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Our blog says the US and Israel want regime change in Iran because, among other things, a friendly Iran would facilitate military action from the south against Russia.——————————————————————-
The US government has always needed a secretary ( a helper, a proxy war ) to win a war, and the last one that they won was during World War 2 against Japan, and practically, the German were defeated by the Soviets, and they are already losing the war in Ukraine,
Aanother war in the Middle East it is going to be worse than Iran and Afghanistan, and they had to use Al Qaeda in Syria.
The Conspiracists are saying that Israel controls the US, but it is the opposite way, they are using Israel for their proxy wars in the Middle East, it is like a Catapult.
The poor workers in Israel are in the middle of a conflict that can be expanded to the whole Middle East, and they can be wiped out completely.
The Socialist Party was correct when it said that Israel was not a safe place for the Jews peoples, and that anti-semitism was going to increase with the formation of the state of Israel by the Zionists
This short article explains the whole situation that has existed between the Palestinian/Arabs and Israel
The situation that exists right now was predicted many years ago by the Socialist Party. The SPGB has published many articles about the Middle East, the best source of information is the index of the WSM
I think you are reading more into what the blog says than is there. It is not saying that this is the aim of the current Israeli-US current aggression against Iran. It might have been during the Cold War but at that time Iran and Israel were fellow US puppets.
Until 1979 when the Shah (who Private Eye used to call the Shit of Iran) was overthrown Iran was an ally of the US and a member of the anti-Russia CENTO military alliance but even in those days the US never established rocket bases on the frontier with the USSR. But they did start Iran’s nuclear programme. According to Wikipedia:
“Iran’s nuclear program was launched as part of the Atoms for Peace program that was announced by U.S. president Eisenhower in 1953. The U.S. helped Iran create its nuclear program in 1957 by providing Iran its first nuclear reactor and nuclear fuel, and after 1967 by providing Iran with weapons grade enriched uranium.”
The overthrow of the Shah in 1979 was thus a failure of US foreign policy and strategic defeat for the US which they would no doubt like to reverse but hardly to confront Russia which is no longer their main rival for world hegemony. More to completely dominate the Middle East unchallenged.
But it would foul up BRICS Central Asian transports, wouldn’t it, and thus seriously damage the economic plans of Russia and China? So, they can’t possibly allow Iran to fall.
Those are only attachments to obtain background informations from an old conflict, it does not make any difference if Iran, or whoever are, were puppets of the imperialist powers, the main concept are the workers, to show to them that supporting their rulers, and ruling class is not the proper choice, that wars are financed by the capitalists class, and the state is financed with surplus value, and that they do not own any country, or even a plot in the cemetery
I know that history, even more, the nuclear program of Iran was initiated during the regime of the shah of Iran under the collaboration of USA, Germany and France, and now those countries are after the new Iranian ruling class, and now Saudi Arabia is pressing the USA to get their own nuclear program, as France helped Israel to obtain the nuclear bombs and the Soviet Union helped North Korea
Brics is only a commercial cartel, like the South American trade cartel, and the G7, in essence they are all the same, Trump signed a treaty with Mexico and Canada and then he violated them, the capitalist always stick the knives against each other, Obama signed a treaty with Iran and it was violated, and he signed a treaty with Cuba and it was violated. As the apaches said: We have signed hundreds of treaty with the white men and all of them were violated, it is the same case of the capitalist, they always violate their own treaties and accords
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What do mean “can’t possibly”? If regime change in Iran happens they might have to accept it rather than jump to press the nuclear button as you like to assume. They might opt to not resort to conventional war either. And of course any new regime might accept this new trade route as being in its own economic interest. And there’s an alternative route that used to be talked about via Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I’m guessing your favourite song is Always Look on the Worst Side of Things.
Israel’s Nuclear Deception: Flagrant Lies and Brazen Hypocrisy
Israel was a young nation, by the mid-1950s, with the aid of France, it had secretly begun the construction of a large nuclear reactor. That two allies had teamed up to launch a nuclear weapons program without the knowledge of the administration of President Dwight D. Eisenhower turned out to be a colossal (and embarrassing) American intelligence failure.
And yet France today, contrasting with its approach to the Ukraine situation, has condemned Israel (?)
Trump’s Surprise Attack on Iran Deepens US Imperial Entanglements
Surprise attack on Iran deepen US imperial entanglements . IMHO
Do not attack the messenger, analysis the message
This conflict is going to motivate all rulers in the Middle East to obtain their own nuclear bombs, and others world powers are going to help them to obtain the technology,
Nuclear technology it is not a secret any more, and it is not a secret that Israel is the only atomic power in the middle East, even more, some of Trump closer collaborators have said that Israel has nuclear bombs.
Iran said that they are willing to negotiate but they want to have their own nuclear program, and according to some sources they kept the nuclear materials and the centrifuges.
The US can not exlusively kick ass anymore like they were doing after WW 2, there are others powers who know how to do that too and China is expanding its tentacles on its own backyard
Brazil is a member of the NPT but they have the technology and the know how to make their own nuclear bombs, they have their own expansionist ambitions like any other capitalist state
And yet France today, contrasting with its approach to the Ukraine situation, has condemned Israel (?)
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Ukraine had their own nuclear bombs too, and Gaddafi returned the detonators.
Iraq was invaded because they did not have any WMD and despite all the power of the US armed forces they were defeated, and the Taliban are controlling Afghanistan again
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