How The British Colonized India

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    Trevor Noah on the colonisation of India:

     

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    And then white man is complaining that they are getting too many black peoples from Africa in EuropeLike in the USA who are complaining about the Mexican immigrants but history shows that most of the South-Western territories of the USA were stolen from Mexico, and the original Guadalupe-Hidalgo treaty says that Mexican are allowed to go in and out the USA whenever they want. The USA has intervened more than 125 in several countries in Latin America and still they are carrying an invasion in Haiti, a place that was called a shithole by the US president, but the US mining company are extracting gold, silvers, iron,  and they have polluted all the river, 

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    Hi MarcosYes, the US have treated Latin America as their back yard over the years.  But the elite aren't too worried about treating whites as expendable rubbish either, as a large swathe of the American population are currently finding out.  With no jobs, or precarious jobs, mega debt and no savings, they are getting a taste of what the black and Latino population have experienced for a long time.  Exploitation is colour blind.Meel

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    This is the debate on identity politics, isn't it Meel? For sure we all have our own special oppression…gender, sexuality, colour, nationality,  but what is the exploitation we all share…economic oppression by being working class. Debs said it once

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    my heart goes to the Negro and I make no apology to any white man for it. In fact, when I see the poor, brutalized, outraged black victim, I feel a burning sense of guilt for his intellectual poverty and moral debasement that makes me blush for the unspeakable crimes committed by my own race. In closing, permit me to express the hope that the next convention may repeal the resolutions on the Negro question. The Negro does not need them and they serve to increase rather than diminish the necessity for explanation. We have nothing special to offer the Negro, and we cannot make separate appeals to all the races. The Socialist Party is the party of the working class, regardless of color—the whole working class of the whole world.
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    The Socialist Party is the congealed, tangible expression of the Socialist movement, and the Socialist movement is based upon the modern class struggle in which all workers of all countries, regardless of race, nationality, creed or sex, are called upon to unite against the capitalist class, their common exploiter and oppressor.

     

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    meel2 wrote:
    Hi MarcosYes, the US have treated Latin America as their back yard over the years.  But the elite aren't too worried about treating whites as expendable rubbish either, as a large swathe of the American population are currently finding out.  With no jobs, or precarious jobs, mega debt and no savings, they are getting a taste of what the black and Latino population have experienced for a long time.  Exploitation is colour blind.Meel

    I know, but Blacks, Latinos ( Criollos, Mestizos, and Mulatos )  are more aware of their own economic exploitation and more aware of the real history of capitalism, and the history of their own countries. or their own origin,  they do not believe in fairy tales. In Latin America, young peoples are more inclined toward socialist ideas than the youth in the USA, and they do not worship presidents, the presidency and the state in the same way that it is done in the USA. During the 60 many young peoples from the USA were willing to die in Vietnam defending the interests of their own rulers, while in Latin America many young were willing to die or go to jail defending the ideas of Marx and Engels. Kennedy used the so-called Peace Corps Volunteers in order to move young workers, and students from others countries from socialist or communist ideas and they were publicly denounced as CIA spies and promoters of political complots.In some places it was illegal for the young peoples to read the works of Marx and Engels, it was a death penalty, most USA workers do not know thatMost peoples in the USA believe in the so-called war against terrorism, but in Latin America, they say that the war on terrorism is only an excuse to invade others countries and that Islamic terrorists are the private army of the USA and NATO. During the 60 there were more communists organizations in New York from Latin America ( mainly Caribbeans )  than from the USA due to the large immigration of workers who were members of those organization. Why do you think that we had the first WSM organization in Jamaica? It is due to the large influence of the ideas of Marx and Engels in that region. In my time a candidate like Donald Trump would obtain zero votes from the youths but many young  peoples in the USA voted for himMy grandfather was an old man who was always listening to Moscow Radio, Peking Radio, Tirana Radio, and Habana Radio, most old peoples in the USA did not listen to that kind of radio broadcasting due to the heavy influence of the bourgeoise ideology in their minds

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    Marcos said:

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    I know, but Blacks, Latinos ( Criollos, Mestizos, and Mulatos )  are more aware of their own economic exploitation and more aware of the real history of capitalism, and the history of their own countries. or their own origin,  they do not believe in fairy tales. 

    I’m sure you’re right about this.  Americans have also had relentless propaganda aimed at them since the 30’ies, basically demonising anything with the label “communist”, socialist” or “anarchist”.  This was a deliberate plan to crush the strong labour movements that were around at the time.  I suppose people in Latin America were not exposed to the same level of propaganda.

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    In Latin America, young peoples are more inclined toward socialist ideas than the youth in the USA, and they do not worship presidents, the presidency and the state in the same way that it is done in the USA. 

    So, do you think that with the immigrations of Mexicans and others to the US, they are able to influence the opinion of young Americans they come into contact with?  Or are the communities too segregated for that?This little exchange with you reminded me of a book I read many years ago, when I was a teenager, called “Weekend in Guatemala” by Miguel Angel Asturias.  It opened my eyes to what the US were/are up to in that region of the world.

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