That kind of was my point,

December 2025 Forums General discussion The ‘Occupy’ movement That kind of was my point,

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That kind of was my point, that this is the limit of 'formal democracy', and only raw strength of numbers and power will settle the issue: a dictatorship from either side would be a bad outcome.  De Gaulle weathered the street protests, but the movement put down markers and the French workers still have protections we don't.  I suppose it comes back to the old 6th Form debating saw:

Saw wrote:
If the community democratically voted to put you to death, would you accept the result?

The equally old, and obvious dodge being:

Dodger wrote:
If they voted to put me to death, they'd succeed, there's more of them than there is of me.

Which contains the slightly more sensible point that after the vote comes the test of strength, democracy in its fullest extent (between friends) relies on ongoing willingness to stay together.  Democracy between enemies is counting guns and cutting out the fight.As far as I can see, AKP is just the Turkish Fianna Fail (or even our Tories).