robbo203 wrote:On your final

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robbo203 wrote:

On your final point , yes.  by ” people on the ground” I mean basically the people  working in the factories or whatever – the people at the coal face so to speak –  who have to make practical day to day decisions.  In the face of multiple demands that exceed the supplies of the available product that is made in the factory  itself.

I’d add a further point of clarification here. A communized system of production would see the end of the individual enterprise as a separate body from the whole of society. Just because some people currently happen to be working in the production of a certain good or raw material does not mean that they would be able to dictate to society where these goods or raw materials went. Ultimately the whole of society has a say in this. If there was a shortage of materials or labour this would be communicated to society at large and the distribution of labour would adjust accordingly.In short “workers control of industry” is not socialism / communism as it still maintains the separation of control from the whole of society.The Italian communist Bordiga wrote a few things on this subject, though his support of the vanguard party should be rejected.