Our position only came up
December 2025 › Forums › Events and announcements › Andrew Kliman speaking in the UK › Our position only came up
Our position only came up when at one point he said that "democracy" was not enough because the same "laws" would still apply even if a majority voted for something. He meant this as a criticism of those who favour workers democracy while retaining the market system, so the "laws" he was talking about were economic ones. But members misunderstood him as saying that you couldn't get socialism through democracy and voting because "political" laws wouldn't allow it. Anyway, this provided a chance for us to present our view. Wait till you can hear the recording. His general view on contesting elections is given in his answer to the last question here:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2010s/2014/no-1316-april-2014/relevance-marxian-economics-todayOf course he didn't buy a round. He was our guest !
