Reply To: Russian Tensions
You have repeatedly expressed the view that the only good Ukrainian is a dead Ukrainian turned to fertilizer because they are all Banderite fascist nazis.
Robbo challenges that opinion saying that just like the Russians the motivation is the mistaken concept of nationalism. I tried to demonstrate that also applied to Germans in WW2, mis-guided nationalism and how that was manipulated by the Nazis to justify their aggression. You fail to recognise the similarities to Putin’s claim of pre-emptive self-defence. You ignore Hitler used the persecution of the Sudetenland and Danzig Germans as a pretext for his aggression and portrayed himself as a humanitarian liberator of German speakers in his propaganda.
And the reason he said he launched 1941 Barbarossa because it was a pre-emptive assault against the threat of a Soviet attack and was claimed as self-defence also passed you by, too. to
I can see now why BD believe you don’t have the capacity for nuanced thought
Regardless of the indoctrination and control of media, dictators still require the consent or acquiescence of their citizens and falsely declaring the enemy as a threat is an old tried and tested way of brainwashing.
Your claim is that during WW2, being German was sufficient to be called a Nazi. Again I presented a fact, something you cannot appreciate. More than half of Germans were not Nazis.
Even the Nazis knew the truth
From a 1938 government report on the mood of industrial workers in Nazi Germany:
“Among industrial workers there are many who do not give a damn about the successes of the Hitler system and have only scorn and contempt for the whole show. Others, however, say: ‘Well, there are a lot of things Adolf does not know about himself and which he does not want’. But one is never quite sure with them whether they mean it seriously or only want to protect their backs.
Naturally, there are also many who have become un-political. In particular, a large number of the skilled workers who were unemployed for a long time are not enthusiastic Nazis. They often complain about the fact that they earn much less now than in say 1929 but, at the end of the day, they always say: ‘It’s all the same to us; at least we have work’.
The further one goes down into the poorer sections the more opposition there is…
Those who are still Nazis in the plant are subdued. One has the feeling that many of them only stay in the Party to get an easier life…”
