Some may find this David
December 2025 › Forums › General discussion › The ‘Occupy’ movement › Some may find this David
Some may find this David Graeber article of interest.http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/11/2011112872835904508.html” Most Marxists insisted that it was necessary first to seize state power, and all the mechanisms of bureaucratic violence that come with it, and use them to transform society – to the point where, they argued such mechanisms would, ultimately, become redundant and fade away. Even back in the 19th century, anarchists argued that this was a pipe dream. One cannot, they argued, create peace by training for war, equality by creating top-down chains of command, or, for that matter, human happiness by becoming grim joyless revolutionaries who sacrifice all personal self-realisation or self-fulfillment to the cause.”We perhaps can take issue with this in that we wish to use the State to abolish the State rather than what i think is envisaged by Graeber, to institute a transitional workers State.We can also possibly comradely debate Graeber on democratic practice and the rights of minorities when he explains that in Occupy Wall St. “From the very beginning, too, organisers made the audacious decision to operate not only by direct democracy, without leaders, but by consensus.The first decision ensured that there would be no formal leadership structure that could be co-opted or coerced; the second, that no majority could bend a minority to its will, but that all crucial decisions had to be made by general consent”
