Thank you for you amusing
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Thank you for you amusing reply AJ. Some points:
1. Don’t you think it a bit rich talking about ‘the 57 varieties’ of Trotskist groups when the same could be said about socialist/Marxist groups, one of which the SPGB claims to be? Didn’t the SPGB start by coming out of the SDF? Splitters!
2. Transitional Demands – they are just a way of putting the theory of socialism into concrete terms that can be understood by workers. The SPGB uses language that few understand and has a rather abstract view of socialism, which makes it sound like science fiction. If nationalising the means of production under democratic control ‘sounds silly’ then that is precisely an example of the childish, dogmatic SPGB approach I’ve been talking about.
3. You cannot separate workers immediate struggles from the need for a socialist world, be it against cuts, unemployment, education, war etc and expect to gain the ear of workers, let alone their support and participation. The history of the SPGB should have taught you that. You applaud workers resisting the onslaught of capitalism and this can lead to growing class consciousness but refuse to join them, prefering to sit on the sidelines saying ‘I told you so, now read Marx.’ The world doesn’t work like that. If it did, capitalism would be history a long time ago. It explains why the SPGB (founded in 1904) only has a few hundred members today, most of which I am told are politically inactive.
I must say, I have been disappointed with the level of debate coming from the SPGB over the issues I’ve raised. You resorted to the type of sloganising and cheap responses I would expect from some of the Marxist sects, such as the SWP, AWL etc.. You are no different.
For a Socialist World!
