“Sharia Law negates Human Rights” (8 December)
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December 5, 2011 at 8:21 am #80967Socialist Party Head OfficeParticipant
On Thursday 8th of December, UCLU Atheist, Secular and Humanist Society will be hosting a debate on a this topic. The proponents of the motion will be arguing that Sharia Law negates human rights. The opposing speakers will attempt to argue otherwise. Co-hosted by UCLU-ASHS and One Law for All, a campaign to protect human rights which believes that Sharia Law opposes the principles of equality enshrined in British law. Drinks will be provided.
THE EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
8 December 2011, 18:00 – 21:00
Location:
Bedford Way LG04, UCL26 Bedford Way
London WC1H 0LPFor the motion:
1) Maryam Namazie – Human rights campaigner, spokesperson One Law for All.
2) Anne-Marie Waters – Lawyer, spokesperson One Law for AllAgainst the motion:
1) Ayazz Mahmood – UK Ahmadiyya Muslim University of Theology and Languages
2) Adam Walker – Lawyer and Muavin Sadr of Ahmadiyya UKMore details on the site of One Law for All here or of the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain here.
December 5, 2011 at 10:23 am #87162ALBKeymasterThis seems the best way to deal with islam. Leave it to ex-Muslims (rather than ex-Christians and ex-Jews). Unfortunately this is not a debate with real Muslims but with a breakaway sect, the Ahmadiyya, who are not regarded by orthodox muslims as muslims and are in fact persecuted in Pakistan and Iran.I heard Maryam Namazie speak at a meeting of SW London Humanists. She’s good. She’s also a member of the Worker-Communist Party of Iran which has the same definition of socialism/communism as us.
Quote:The immediate aim of the worker-communist party is to organise the social revolution of the working class. A revolution that overthrows the entire exploitative capitalist relations and puts an end to all exploitations and hardships. Our programme is for the immediate establishment of a communist society; a society without classes, without private ownership of the means of production, without wage labour and without a state; a free human society in which all share in the social wealth and collectively decide the society’s direction and future. Communist society is possible this very day. (….)The essence of communist revolution is abolition of private ownership of the means of production and their conversion into common ownership of the whole society. Communist revolution puts an end to the class division of society and abolishes the wage-labour system. Thus, market, exchange of commodities, and money disappear. Production for profit is replaced by production to meet people’s needs and to bring about greater prosperity for all. Work, which in capitalist society for the overwhelming majority is an involuntary, mechanical and strenuous activity to earn a living, gives way to voluntary, creative and conscious activity to enrich human life. Everyone, by virtue of being a human being and being born into human society will be equally entitled to all of life’s resources and the products of collective effort. From everyone according to their ability, to everyone according to their need – this is a basic principle of communist society. [From here]The trouble is that they are Leninists and have a minimum programme of democratic and social reforms to be implemented under capitalism.And I don’t think she reveals that she wants (like us) a classless, stateless, moneyless, wageless society when she’s speaking as a secularist-humanist. Pity.
December 25, 2011 at 12:37 am #87163AnonymousInactiveI’m not able with my bad english to understand the part of secularist propaganda with or without socialist perspectives but some translations into french of the Maryam Namazie’s work are interesting and useful here in France, where we have a lot of “islamo-leftism”.
December 27, 2011 at 7:36 am #87164ALBKeymasterWe’ve got “islamo-leftism” here too, originally sponsored by the SWP and now embodied in the Respect Party. Fortunately, this party appears to be going down the drain. These trotskyists bear a heavy responsibility for encouraging “communalist” politics into Britain whereas the socialist policy is to unite workers on a class basis rather than divide them on religious or so-called “ethnic” lines.
April 7, 2016 at 2:37 am #87165alanjjohnstoneKeymasterJust an update upon the risks of being a follower of ahmadiyya islamhttp://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35976958Sad this incident happened in Glasgow, a city infamous for the violence for being the wrong type of christian
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