Revolutionary Communist Party

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    robbo203
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    I was under the impression that this entity was a trot outfit. It certainly seems to draw inspiration from people like Trotsky and Lenin. Having come across them on the internet and not knowing much about them, I was surprised to learn they don’t advocate for a workers’ state or state capitalism. Does anybody know more precisely where they stand in relation to the SPGB?

    I typed in a question in my chatbot, and this is the answer I got:

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    what does the Revolutuionary Communist Party mean by communism

    Here’s a clear, text‑grounded explanation of what the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP) means by communism, based strictly on the content of the Facebook page you have open and the language they use there.

    Because your current tab contains the RCP’s own description of its aims, that is the authoritative source for this answer. I’ll base my explanation on that material .

    ⭐ What the Revolutionary Communist Party means by communism
    From the RCP’s own statements in your open tab, communism is defined not as a system of nationalisation or state ownership, but as a classless, stateless society in which:

    private ownership of the means of production is abolished, and

    nation‑states themselves are abolished.

    This is explicit in the party’s description of its goals, which emphasises:

    the overthrow of capitalism,

    the abolition of private property, and

    the abolition of nation‑states.

    This is a vision of communism that aligns with the end‑state described by Marx and Engels in The German Ideology and The Communist Manifesto: a society where the state “withers away” because class antagonisms have been overcome.

    It is not the Leninist transitional model of a workers’ state or dictatorship of the proletariat. The RCP’s own language points directly to the final communist form—stateless, classless, and without national borders.

    ⭐ Key features of communism as the RCP presents it
    Based on the page you have open, the RCP’s conception includes:

    1. No private property
    All productive resources are held in common, not by individuals, corporations, or the state.

    2. No nation‑states
    The RCP explicitly calls for the abolition of nation‑states, which places it outside the tradition of parties that aim to seize state power and use it as a transitional instrument.

    3. No wage labour or exploitation
    Communism is framed as the end of capitalist social relations, not their management by a different ruling class.

    4. Directly social production
    Production is organised collectively and democratically, not through markets or state bureaucracies.

    5. Internationalism
    The abolition of nation‑states implies a global or transnational conception of communism, not socialism in one country.

    ⭐ How this differs from other communist traditions
    Because the RCP rejects the idea of a transitional workers’ state, its conception of communism is closer to:

    left‑communism,

    council communism, or

    anarchist‑communism,

    than to orthodox Marxism‑Leninism.

    Where Leninists argue for a workers’ state as a necessary transitional phase, the RCP’s own language points directly to the stateless phase.

    #262972
    ALB
    Keymaster

    There is something wrong with that chatbox response. Given that the RCP, like all Leninist groups, is committed to communism (what we call socialism) as a long term goal, it is understandable why the chatbot should come up with that description it has.

    It’s the concluding section that this means they reject a so-called workers state based on a state-capitalist economy as a necessary stage towards this that is wrong. They don’t reject this but are ultra-orthodox Trots, descended from the old Militant Tendency, the wing that stayed in the Labour Party when the others left to form SPEW until they too were expelled.

    I’ve been to a couple of their meetings. At one the audience was told that the RCP was in the Marxist tradition of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky and Ted Grant. Grant will be turning in his grave at the suggestion that he was not an orthodox Marxist-Leninist but some sort of council communist.

    Here is their website: https://communist.red/

    Which all goes to show that you can’t trust a chatbox.

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