Reply To: Satire and counterpropaganda.

There are plenty of Socialists who are not in the SPGB mindset and don’t enjoy circular debate and inferences suggesting they aren’t socialists. Nationalisation is taking away power from corporate entities to exploit us. Industry and Infrastructure under Socialism are produced in the same way, by the people for the people. Incremental change is the option left if outright support for your ideals/revolt fails. If no one will join your revolution, then it’s simply a protest of a few. Moving society towards Socialism is necessary to get support for the previously stated revolution. Helping to shift people’s thinking by pushing the Overton window to ideologies that are communal-based ownership from privately owned. Removing Capitalism by supplanting it, is still removing capitalism.

I understand your arguments around different interpretations of Marxism, but if we can just agree that we want a replacement of Capitalism based on a resource-based economy that’s ecologically friendly, sustainable and communally run and owned then we get past the preconceptions/misconceptions of socialism and appeal to everyone. You may have to compromise on the name of that system to appeal to all and remove misconceptions and erroneous stigmas. Most of us in Society just want security, food and shelter and the opportunity to thrive, concentrate on those similarities between people and we can grow support for real change. The removal of hierarchy, Capitalism and greed. Move towards a society that applauds individual growth over personal financial gains.