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September 26, 2016 at 6:56 am #121809
lolSeptember 27, 2016 at 2:15 pm #121810lindanesocialist wrote:Vin is taking a lot of shit on line and would like to go to ADM and confront his accusers but is not a member of a branch and can no way afford to travel and live in London for a couple of days. Staying over at HO would definitely result in his demise. Any suggestions?
Same suggestion I made to you months ago. Put together a dossier of evidence and present it to either the EC or ask a branch to look it over.October 1, 2016 at 10:45 pm #121811
Vin has been nominted by West London Branch to the AV committee, which will be put to the EC today. What would it mean for party democracy if the EC were to ignore nominations from two branches? Three, if NERB intend to nominate Vin for the AV committee? Is that the function of an adminstraive committee, administrating the rules decided by the majority?Indeed is it with the terms of reference for a sub committee to permanently ban a member from the forum?October 1, 2016 at 11:18 pm #121812
Linda,The reason Joe brought the idea of the NERB discussing nominating Vin to get back on the AVC, here on this thread, was to see if we could get a decision agreed on to send to the EC today. Alas, as no one else seemed interested in the discussion, so it looks like we'll have to wait until the next branch meeting on Oct' 24th to discuss the issue.Oh, in case you'd forgotten, the IC didn't permanently ban Vin. As far as I'm aware, Vin only decided to make an appeal to his indefinite suspension, quite recently. The situation regarding the IC, Vin and the EC has been explained a number of times. The last time was post #13 on this thread, by Joe. Cheers,StephenOctober 1, 2016 at 11:27 pm #121813
Sorry comrade but it has notThe EC has never made such a decision, nor have they the authority to do so. The authority is in your hands.'you are just doing your job' simply not enoughOctober 1, 2016 at 11:39 pm #121814
Are you referring to the idea, that the EC had something to do with Vin's suspension? If you are, as far as I can tell, that link first came from you and I first read it on this thread, post #9, or on the thread about Vin's suspension decision. But if someone else said otherwise, please post a link and the quote here.lindanesocialist wrote:To the EC I had not realised that the EC had suspended me from the SPGB Party forum and this led to some confusion with the IC and Moderators . I request that the EC lift my ban and reinstate my account. I undertake to abide by the rules of the forum. May I also ask that the EC reconsiders my nomination as a member of the AV committee as I feel I have something to contribute to the party and our movement?October 1, 2016 at 11:55 pm #121815
No, the decisision to suspend Vin today – 2nd October 2016 is made by mod1, mod2 Mod3 and the people defending this censorship is Brian(Mod1) Alan Jonson(Mod 2) and Socialist Punk AKA Stephen Davison(mod3). No other members. This suspension and censorship of a party member is not supported by any members, rules, standing orders, EC decisions, ADM or Conference Decisions unless you can inform me of any other authorisation, instruction or any other democratic decisions , apart from one member's ego and power trip then you should allow this member to speak freelyOctober 2, 2016 at 12:22 am #121816
Err…wrong again. Vin was suspended back in March of this year. Like I say, he only just decided to appeal his suspension.As Joe pointed out back on post #13."In june the I.C. notified the E.C. they had no intention of dealing with any appeal on his suspension. The july E.C. requested that correspondence from Vin to the I.C. is forwarded to them. This bypassed the I.C. stage of the appeal process Vin was told about, by Mod1 at the time of his suspension.So any appeal by Vin goes to the E.C. The E.C. did not suspend Vin."If the EC have decided to instruct the moderators to reinstate Vin, it will be done.October 2, 2016 at 12:30 am #121817SocialistPunk wrote:Err…wrong again. Vin was suspended back in March of this year. Like I say, he only just decided to appeal his suspension.As Joe pointed out back on post #13."In june the I.C. notified the E.C. they had no intention of dealing with any appeal on his suspension. The july E.C. requested that correspondence from Vin to the I.C. is forwarded to them. This bypassed the I.C. stage of the appeal process Vin was told about, by Mod1 at the time of his suspension.So any appeal by Vin goes to the E.C. The E.C. did not suspend Vin."If the EC have decided to instruct the moderators to reinstate Vin, it will be done.
Errr read it again.This is not an EC decision it is a post by JoeOctober 2, 2016 at 12:33 am #121818
YOU are responsible for a comrade's suspension and censorship. You have also accused VIn of paranoia. If you stopped for a moment to think about it……………October 2, 2016 at 12:47 am #121819
You've been told this a few times already and I'm probably wasting my time here, yet again. But I'll try once more.The quote from Joe is a section taken from a quote by mod1, from the thread "Moderators decision on Comrade Maratty's idefinite forum ban", page 18, post #174.http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/website-technical/moderators-decision-cde-marattys-indefinite-forum-ban?page=17moderator1 wrote:The resolution can be found in the July EC minutes.(b) Matters arising or carried forward from previous meeting(s) vii. Internet Committee report to EC 26/03/16 – Item 3 of the ‘Executive summary’(June Item2bd – c/f April EC): “We ask that the EC take such steps as are necessary to relieve the Internet Committee of the burden of further dealing with this member.” The matter had been deferred pending confirmation (now provided) that a reported resignation by the member had been withdrawn. MOTION 1 [Cox/Craggs]: “To recommend that the Internet Committee forwards any further correspondence from this member to the EC.” AGREED.October 2, 2016 at 12:51 am #121820lindanesocialist wrote:YOU are responsible for a comrade's suspension and censorship. You have also accused VIn of paranoia. If you stopped for a moment to think about it……………
You seem to be suggesting that I suspended Vin?I'm off to bed now. Nighty, night Linda.October 2, 2016 at 12:57 am #121821
This is the socialist party we are not controlled by committees or moderators like the Stalinist, Leninist and trot groups. We are a democratic organanisation run by its members.You should have no control over what Vin says or wishes to sayI can only hope that one day you will eventually comprehend what I am sayingfraternallyOctober 2, 2016 at 12:59 am #121825SocialistPunk wrote:You seem to be suggesting that I suspended Vin?I'm off to bed now. Nighty, night Linda.
You did, you are! Nite Nite, sleep wellOctober 2, 2016 at 12:59 am #121822
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