May 1, 2016 at 12:50 pm #119313
If Linda recieved E Mails meant for you and interpreted them as meant for her, they must still have contained some pretty provocative stuff to, as I have stated, elicit some of the replies I have seen and the accusations they spawned!No one wants to see interminable wrangling but I can see SP's point, in that, he wishes everything out in the open and to know the reasons behind the accusations he has had to suffer and the threats implicit in the E Mails I, have seen, that were sent to him!!!When this is done, I would like nothing better than to move on and build on the success our February meeting so obviously was.May 1, 2016 at 1:13 pm #119314steve colborn wrote:No one wants to see interminable wrangling but I can see SP's point, in that, he wishes everything out in the open and to know the reasons behind the accusations he has had to suffer and the threats implicit in the E Mails I, have seen, that were sent to him!!!
I will ask again. What does the brach hope to acheive? I have resigned my posts. Is it my party resignation your after?I have offered to move out of the branchI suggest we move onVinMay 1, 2016 at 1:24 pm #119316
Look Vin, can you just copy and paste the problematic E Mails so that I/we can see where the problem lies. I am quite sure if "you" were in the position of SP, you would expect no less.I have seen the E Mails sent to SP, and they must have been some doozy E Mails and or crossed wires to engender that kind of response. So please publish, thats a simple enough request, Comrade. Stevie C.May 1, 2016 at 1:26 pm #119317
No VinMay 1, 2016 at 1:27 pm #119315
AS SP points out Linda apologised immediately when she realised what had happened re 'hate mail' comments and Joe thanked her.After monitoring our petty bickering email exchanges she is no longer interested and cannot understand why I continue. So as far as Linda is concerned. End of story. She immediately apologised and has vamoused.VinMay 1, 2016 at 1:30 pm #119318
By the way I vote in favour of Tim's Motion to the EC VinMay 1, 2016 at 2:00 pm #119319SocialistPunkParticipant
This whole issue essentially centers around one word, "evidence". For some time now Vin and Linda have been claiming that there is an IC conspiracy aimed at him. Claims have been made that his suspension from this forum was an attempt to silence him.Through out this time I have consistently challenged Vin's conspiracy claim, and asked him to provide evidence. As time moved on the more I asked him to provide evidence the more hostile he became.This has led to the situation of me being accused of abusive and bullying behaviour. And once again when pressed to provide evidence, non is presented.This suggests Vin and Linda are all too willing to launch unfounded claims against fellow Party members. This needs to stop once and for all. Either evidence to back up claims of conspiracy and now abuse should be presented or retracted publicly, with explanations and apologies.Moderator1 wrote:…an apology goes a long way. But when that apology lacks an explanation its meaningless. In my experience its the explanation which actually counts for it provides that essential reflection on how, when and where and thereby reassures all parties the lessons have been learnt and absorbed so that the relationship – in the future – is more fulfilling, enjoyable and interesting.May 1, 2016 at 2:05 pm #119320SocialistPunk wrote:Through out this time I have consistently challenged Vin's conspiracy claim, and asked him to provide evidence.
I have no intention of 'collecting evidence' to defend myself.I am too busy with thesehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo2v1fndQpwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl4kKzXMiYw And at this moment I am working on an EU Referendum Video I prefer to do this than 'collect evidence' as you call it. As I said in a previous post I have given up on the forum and the IC to free us all of a lot of evidence collecting, because I for one have better and more important things to do than 'collect evidenceSP appears to have a lot of spare time 'collecting evidence' that achieves nothing constructive, I suggest he is nominated as secretary to give him something more constructive to doI again make a plea to the members to move on to more important matters VinMay 1, 2016 at 2:23 pm #119321SocialistPunkParticipant
Same old tactics of distraction I see, Vin. Hiding behind the "I'm too busy doing Party work.", excuse. So you think you can make accusations, but when put on the spot you should be allowed to just walk away without any repercussions?And once again you make ridiculous, petty digs. I've got a lot of spare time have I? Spare from what, may I ask? Spare from constant pain and disability, spare from a grueling medication and physio regime. I have no spare time from Cystic Fibrosis and the brutal cancer treatment I had to endure, that has left me a shadow of my former self.Now present the evidence of all accusations or make a public retraction and apologies to all parties concerned. It's crunch time!May 1, 2016 at 2:30 pm #119322northern lightParticipant
Just anouncing my presence.May 1, 2016 at 2:34 pm #119323
SP appears to have a lot of spare time 'collecting evidence' that achieves nothing constructive, I suggest he is nominated as secretary to give him something more constructive to do i would think that trying to stay alive, is far from having "a lot of spare time". There have been accusations and threats made, all SP is trying to as, I'm sure you yourself would do, is find out the rationale behind these events. Its obvious that anyone who would make, what to me are baseless, farcical accusations, re bullying and threats, do not know SP at all.It was not just Linda who accused SP of bullying but yourself, with implied threats thrown in. As with the accusations thrown around by the IC, towards various members, all SP requires is "proof". No more, nor less, than those at the sharp end of IC shenanigans themselves, required of the IC. A bit of Quid pro quo if you like!May 1, 2016 at 2:52 pm #119324
By the way, there is no agenda here but explanation and truth.May 1, 2016 at 2:58 pm #119325
It seem sp and sc can make accusation freely at their will. Time you withdrew them?I appreciate you both have health problems, but you are not the only onesYou are not the only ones with health problems Linda has advanced COPD and is on nebuliser 4 times a day and she can do without all this friendly banterI also have 2 disabled sons and a grandaughter most of the week. Do you appreciate my problems?Or is it unrequited loveMay 1, 2016 at 3:07 pm #119326steve colborn wrote:By the way, there is no agenda here but explanation and truth.
Why the need to say that?May 1, 2016 at 3:07 pm #119327northern lightParticipant
where we are to date. Socialist Punk makes accusation against Vin and provides evidence Vin makes counter-claim and does not provide evidence Vin makes barbed comment as to how S.P. can spend his time I for one have heard enough. I will no longer call this person comrade. To me, he no longer exists.
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