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jondwhite
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Clause 6 states

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... the working class must organize consciously and politically for the conquest of the powers of government, national and local...

and Clause 8

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... The Socialist Party of Great Britain, therefore, enters the field of political action ...

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So opposition to standing at elections is opposition to the party's Declaration of Principles?

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Vin wrote:

So opposition to standing at elections is opposition to the party's Declaration of Principles?

Yes opposition to the party (ever) standing at elections is opposed to the D of P. However I would argue that those who currently think standing at elections (and I hasten to add I am NOT amongst that group), but that there will be a time for the party to do so, are not opposed to the D of P.


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So opposition to standing at elections is opposition to the party's Declaration of Principles?

Let's not go on a heresy hunt here, searching out members who presently oppose using resources in elections because they may not think the time is appropriate for standing in elections. 

Some branchs have the members and the will to commit to them. Other branches consider that they are not able to contest them.

Personally, whether we have candidates or not doesn't really bother me. It is more important that we use the occasions to increase our activity and publicity. We have to raise our profile and election-times are a suitable moment  when more folk are focussed on politics and ready to engage in debate and discussion. 

For branches with a membership volunteering to take part in an election, all well and good , and i heartily endorse and support that. I hope the EC can devote money and logisitcs so that we do gain a receptive audience.

I would also hope a branch SPGB newsletter could be published and distributed aongside an array of leaflets on a variety of topics rather than a one-size fits all election leaflet where the name of the candidate and ward is the only thing different. 

However, we do need a campaign strategy for those branches who feel they cannot put forward candidates so  there has to be  an alternative for them.

Couldn't we devise a plan of things to do for branches. Have adverts designed for the local press and paid for by the EC. Templates for letters to the editor made so that all is required is the newspaper's email and a name of a local member. I would suggest fly-posting but being a realist i cannot imagine some of our members escaping the clutches of the law on their zimmer-frames. But we could produce more convenient to use stickers which are easy and sometimes effective. I recall reading of a member who could use his mobility scooter to apply to stickers on lamp-osts and bus-stops. 

"I have no country to fight for; my country is the Earth, and I am a citizen of the World." - Eugene V. Debs

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alanjjohnstone wrote:

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So opposition to standing at elections is opposition to the party's Declaration of Principles?

Let's not go on a heresy hunt here, searching out members who presently oppose using resources in elections because they may not think the time is appropriate for standing in elections. 

EH??

How can you interpret my comment in such a way? I suggest no such thing.

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Vin wrote:

alanjjohnstone wrote:

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So opposition to standing at elections is opposition to the party's Declaration of Principles?

Let's not go on a heresy hunt here, searching out members who presently oppose using resources in elections because they may not think the time is appropriate for standing in elections. 

EH??

How can you interpret my comment in such a way? I suggest no such thing.

While I think anti-electoralism might contravene the D of P, choosing not to contest particular elections or constituencies for pragmatic reasons (members time / money) is not and I think this is all that Alan is saying. Although I don't think poor results in terms of votes for us is reason alone enough not to contest.

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alanjjohnstone wrote:

Couldn't we devise a plan of things to do for branches. Have adverts designed for the local press and paid for by the EC. Templates for letters to the editor made so that all is required is the newspaper's email and a name of a local member.

Definitely a good idea. I would certainly wish to be active in someway at election times without necessarily standing myself. 

Adverts, letters and even leaflet distribution financed by the EC. There are some active members in the NE who could coordinate and carry out such a campagne.

How would we set about it? Without branch resolutions? etc.

 

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Vin, it wasn't meant as an accusatory post but a cautionary warning because of the implication that could be read into the statement by some, especially when read alongside Gnome's message #201.

But anyways perhaps we require a new thread to discuss these matters because we are cluttering up K&S branch minutes. 

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Vin wrote:

How would we set about it? Without branch resolutions? etc.

I don't see why a group of like-minded comrades couldn't approach the EC with a view to seeking approval to contest a seat, providing the basic requirements are observed.  As has already been mentioned Kent & Sussex branch is asking permission to contest two local council seats in Folkestone with up to three more elsewhere.  Here are some guidelines, which are not necessarily exhaustive, that we've given to our prospective candidates.

Branch Election Agent wrote:

There are three issues here:

1. We need to ask the Executive Committee for permission to stand candidates, and for some financial assistance for publicity (there is no free post for local elections). The EC meets this coming Saturday (4 May) so we can request permission then.  At the EC's April meeting we need to get approval of the basic text of the election leaflet.

2. We need to have a member willing to be the candidate and the agent (who can be the same person). The candidate must live or work in the particular County Council area being contested; the agent (form filler and official postal address!) could live in an adjoining area. There is more information on being a candidate below. There is some admin to do (mainly by 4th April), and ten local electors need to be asked to sign the nomination form (they do not need to be supporters). If one or more of you is interested in standing let me know and I can double-check they are OK to stand in the area.

3. The Party requires candidates be able to answer questions about the Party case (e.g. to the press). Usually this means being tested by two members using a sample of pre-set questions (I can supply these), or being an accredited Party speaker.

If you need more information on anything please approach the Election Committee:  spgb.election@worldsocialism.org  

Here is the election website which members should find helpful:  http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/candidate-or-agent/local-el...

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Thanks for that Gnome but I am not sure we have a member willing to commit to stand. I think the member that has stood in the past - although he would probably be willing -  has poor health problems.

What I am proposing is some activity during election time, leaflet drop, letters, adverts and one member has suggested a debate with Momentum could be in the pipeline

A presence during election times.

 

By the way Alan, no worries wink

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