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Amendment to Rule 8.

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northern light
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I can hardly believe I am reading posts from thinking reasoning adults.

 The Moderators are Party volunteers, for goodness sake, doing valuable Party work.

Rather than sniping from the sidelines, if any member of the SPGB thinks they can do a better job, let's have you volunteering for

moderation duty.

LBird
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ALB wrote:

So the next time LBird is banned he'll be asking permission for somebody to post on his behalf and, if this is refused, then there'll be another long, tedious argument as to why the moderators did in the one case but not in the other.

Don't drag me into your childish arguments, ALB.

My response to being banned is not to 'ask permission' for a post-by-proxy, but to accept that the party has rules, and to simply conclude that the mods are as bad at reasoned argument about Marx, social production and 'materialism', as the rest of the membership.

BTW, why Vin has been banned, but the rest of the clowns haven't, beats me. Vin is by no means the worst.


lindanesocialist
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northern light wrote:

I can hardly believe I am reading posts from thinking reasoning adults.

 The Moderators are Party volunteers, for goodness sake, doing valuable Party work.

Rather than sniping from the sidelines, if any member of the SPGB thinks they can do a better job, let's have you volunteering for

moderation duty.

I am not sniping, cde. Vin is banned and entitled to answers. I am simply asking for clarification. 

I too, sometimes feel this is all a little surreal. We are taking about banning a party member for life or reinstate him and treat him as others, 

The mods are volunteers as are we all, noone know better than Vin for having years of hard work trashed in a few vindictive remarks. I agree with you on this and your previous post why cant they all stop playing games and act like intelligent adults. Treat Vin as they would treat other members, as LBird has said there are a lot worse

comradely

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Tim Kilgallon wrote:

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Tim Kilgallon wrote:

So presumably if Linda asks, once the rule is amended, you will give this prior permission, working on the basis that all three of you have previouisly replied and responded to Linda posting Vin's comments, the three of you will have no problem with that, as long as it's in line with the other rules of the forum?

It also begs the question, if Linda was to post a message along the lines of "my opinion (and incidentally that of Vin's) is........" that wouldn't be in breach of the rules as Linda would only be indicating where her opinion was in harmony with Vin's.

I have no comment to make on the undemocratic suggestions being made in this post.

Mod 1, I object strongly to your saying that the postings I have made are in any way undemocratic and I politely ask for you to withdraw them and apologise. I think that you have made a completely uncomradely remark.

Not only that, you are factually incorrect. I have made no suggestions, I have merely asked two questions. I am surprised that you do not know the difference between a question and a suggestion. I would also ask you (this is a question by the way, just in case you get a littel confused) how can a question be undemocratic?

It appears an apology is in order due to a failing on my part to realise that Tim was raising a question and not making a suggestion that I alone partake in an undemocratic decision making process.  May I assure posters that the mods make collective decisions on the moderation of the forum.

Bijou Drains
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Thanks for your clarification Brian

YFS

TIM


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lindanesocialist wrote:

Well cdes mod1, mod2 and mod3,  what do you do now? Adam Gnome and Tim have done what Vin is suspended for. Do you act?  or ignore?

 

 

1st Warning: 15. Queries or appeals relating to particular moderation decisions should be sent directly to the moderators by private message. Do not post such messages to the forum. You must continue to abide by the moderators’ decisions pending the outcome of your appeal.

lindanesocialist
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moderator1 wrote:

 without prior permission from the moderators.”

 

May I ask via what channels would permission be requested  and on what grounds would permission be granted/decided upon? How long will it take to come to such a decision?

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lindanesocialist wrote:

moderator1 wrote:

 without prior permission from the moderators.”

 

May I ask via what channels would permission be requested  and on what grounds would permission be granted/decided upon? How long will it take to come to such a decision?

Seeing you are currently in correspondence with the moderators via PM's on this very subject it appears this question is unnecessary.

lindanesocialist
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moderator1 wrote:

lindanesocialist wrote:

moderator1 wrote:

 without prior permission from the moderators.”

 

May I ask via what channels would permission be requested  and on what grounds would permission be granted/decided upon? How long will it take to come to such a decision?

Seeing you are currently in correspondence with the moderators via PM's on this very subject it appears this question is unnecessary.

Well I  (or we) appreciate the openess of the SPGB and wish to maintain such openess. 

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lindanesocialist wrote:
moderator1 wrote:
without prior permission from the moderators.”
May I ask via what channels would permission be requested  and on what grounds would permission be granted/decided upon? How long will it take to come to such a decision?

Good point, Vinda. And yet another reason why this proposed amendment to the forum rules (which would only ever need to be applied to one user) should be dropped -- it will provide an opportunity for further skirmishes between users and moderators. I can't think why the moderators want to create this rod to beat their own backs. Maybe they're masochists or enjoy a game of cat and mouse?

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