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Minutes of North East Branch - April 2016

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Alternatively, ask Oliver or the HOO, via email, to send the forms as an attachment in an email.  Which would be my preference.

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It's a shame that such passion could not be shown in attracting members as is used to getting rid of them. What is the panic, I wonder? And where is the objectivity of moderation? If it ever existed laugh

Cheers

Linda and Vin

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moderator1 wrote:

Alternatively, ask Oliver or the HOO, via email, to send the forms as an attachment in an email.  Which would be my preference.

No surprise there

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Tim,

Due to the unintentional delay in acting on democratic branch decisions taken during the April meeting, would it be possible to keep the branch informed as to when the resolution and the two Form F's have been sent to HO, for the attention of the EC?

 

Cheers,
Stephen


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no problem


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Just to clarify the current situation. I have just checked my personal email. Oliver stated that he would send me copies of al lof the relevant forns for Branch Secretaries he also informed me that before the July EC Vin and Linda asked for their resignations to be withdrawn. He aplogised that this had not been passed on to the branch (or indeed mentioned in the minutes of the EC. I have responded that my view is that the Forms F should be submitted regardless. This was the democratic decision of the branch and if it were not for my omission in sending the forms of they would have been processed as that. As branch secretary I am taking the view that if Linda and Vin wish to re-apply, this should properly be done through application to the EC. I am happy to be directed by the branch, if they thinkwe should take a different response.

Re the resolution passed at the last meeting, this has already been emailed to the Gen Sec for coonsideration at the next EC.

YFS

Tim


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Agreed Tim. A democratic decision was taken at the April meeting to accept the resignations of two branch members, therefore Party democratic procedure must be carried out. Meaning the Form F's must be sent to the EC for processing.

There is a section on the Form F, that asks for reason of cessation of membership. On the Form A, there is a question asking for reason of termination of previous membership.

What reason is being given for Vin and Linda's resignation? This is important because should they wish to reapply, the EC will need to know that whatever reason there was, no longer exists.

 

Cheers,
Stephen


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Hi Stephen

The form F asks:

"ceased membership of this branch by reason of

(state whether loss of contact, resigned, expelled or deceased)

As Vin and Linda resigned, I was intending to put resigned on the form. As to the reason they resigned, this isn't requested on the form. surely it is up to Linda and Vin to say why they resigned, should they reapply?

I'm genuinely confused by your last sentence "This is important because should they wish to reapply, the EC will need to know that whatever reason there was, no longer exists."

Having read through the Proceedings of the last branch meeting, I couldn't honestly say "hand on heart" that I know completely why they resigned, it was from my reading for a multiplicity of reasons, some of which may exist still, some of which may not exist now, some of which may be relevant to their membership some of which may not. I'm honestly not being obstructive, my opinion as a member is that this is a matter for the EC to sort out, not the branch. With my Branch Secretary hat on, however I am happy to carry out the democratically decided upon decisions of the branch. I've got to say, however that having read through the proceedings of the last branch meeting, I think I would have been less confused if I had chosen to watch The Matrix, whilst tripping on LSD.


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Tim,

You are right, as we don't know why they resigned no explanation can be offered on the Form F. I guess I'm just scratching my head at the surreal aspect of this situation. 

I agree that it will now be up to the EC to decide whether or not the reason/s for their resignation still remain. Should they decide to reapply for membership, the Form A requires they give reason for termination of previous membership.

 

Cheers,
Stephen


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Tim Kilgallon wrote:

Just to clarify the current situation. I have just checked my personal email. 7th July

 

Hi Tim

 

did you receive our email? Dated 4th July?

 

Hi Tim

 hope you are keeping well. Linda and I have reconsidered our decision to resign. As you know the last branch meeting had its problems to say the least and there were a lot of hot heads around but on reflection we wish to stay.  It seems Kent branch has asked the EC to adopt my video as official and it is unlikely to happen if I am a non-member. I feel there is work I could be doing  Such as   

Kent and Sussex Branch  “Proposed Introductory Video."Members of the branch were interested to see the video entitled 'PartyIntroSPGBMay2016' which we understand was recently submitted to the EC for consideration and has since been published by the 'whatissocialism.net' site.  The branch asks whether the EC has given consideration to adopting this video as an official party publication and also whether enhancements may be possible (for instance to clarify that the opening sequences are a representation of life under capitalism rather than what some less-informed viewers may see as images of world socialism)".

All the bestMOTION 4 [Cox/Craggs]: “The EC welcomes Cde Vin Maratty’s draft video ('PartyIntroSPGBMay2016') and notes the reported offer made via the Secretary of K&SRB to add clarification to the opening sequences. The EC looks forward to receiving an amended version for consideration of authorising for publication.” AGREED”   

 

cheers

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