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robbo203
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Vin wrote:

I agree the quote is fine. The problem I have  is claiming that Corbyn is the same as Thatcher when he clearly is not. Thatcher openly opposed Trade Unions and set about murdering its members by starvation and violence. Corbyn openly supports trade unions and seeks to use the law to encourage trade union activity and growth. 

 

 

Thats true enough Vin - you cant really compare Corbyn to Thatcher  as far as their personal beliefs are concerned - but, on the other hand, it does occur to me that this might be to overtheorise the issue.  The image of  Jeremy Thatcher  works at the level of a meme.  Like the worm eating away at the apple's core it is has the effect of jolting the viewer/reader into rethinking what might be the overall impact of a Corbyn government.  Whatever Corbyn might think, you can't operate this rotten system of capitalism in the interests of the "many not the few" and Corbyn like Thatcher, even if reluctantly (unlike Thatcher) will be obliged to operate the system in the interests of the few against the many

 

If that simple message gets through, the image might have some value after all and help to counter the rather disturbing cultish  following Corbyn seems to be collecting around his person (probably through no fault of his own) which is defintely not a healthy development and is decidedly anti-socialist

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My opinion, for what it's worth, is that this shows the value of social media in getting a message across. I think it's to be expected that The Scum will get it wrong, (I don't even think it is a deliberate distortion, just shit thick journalists).

It might mean that a few of the readership might be curious enough to find out about what we are really saying. Another good point is the reference all the way through to us as the Socialsit Party, they might get a few complaints from the SPEWERS,

I am also happy with this bit in the article as well "The party argues that Mr Corbyn's definition of socialism isn't good enough, and they want a "class-free, state-free, money-free society with free access". Too bloody right, pity they didn't mention that it has been our principled standpoint for 113 years!

I do think that photoshopping Jezza into Thatcher was a bit childish though.


Vin
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DJP wrote:

robbo203 wrote:
I think the Sun needs to be  corrected.

Yes I'm sure they don't want to tarnish their reputation for accurate reporting.

laugh

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Max is good at socialist agit-pro and satirical stuff. He used to have website dedicated to it.

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My reply in the Scum, borrowing some of Robins words :-) was as below: 
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It did NOT say",the official Socialist Party account said to him that socialism must replace capitalism in Britain". Socialism is a global post-capitalist society of porduction for use, free access and run by al of us without elites, using recallable delegatory democracy..  The tweet said,"Outdated failing capitalism must be eradicated and replaced with socialism. "Forget about wanting to manage capitalism to make it nicer."   Whatever Corbyn might think, you can't operate this rotten system of capitalism in the interests of the "many not the few" and Corbyn like Thatcher, even if reluctantly (unlike Thatcher) will be obliged to operate the system in the interests of the few against the many. It is not just having a pop at a sincere Corbyn but at all politicians Left, Righ and Centre who think they can manage captalism or reform it.

"From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".

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Nice one, Matt!

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