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The PRINCIPLE of HEALTHY & MEANINGFUL LIVING

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alanjjohnstone
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But we don't regard choice of diet as a political matter but as a private one for each member to decide for themselves.

When does imposition of unhealthy food for profit become a political issue of public health. 

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Yes, but the solution is not for workers to change their eating habits (though they can if they want to) but for them to change the basis of society from class ownership to common ownership of the means of producion so that food is no longer production for profit. 

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I have been changing my eating habits all of my life driven by affordability, availability and personal gullibility. After the thousands of A-bomb tests worldwide which happened 60 or so years ago, we could be mis-attributing carcinogenic diseases to unhealthy life choices, as opposed to the fallout from those tests which took place.

"From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".

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Agriculture, aviculture,  Farming, etc, etc,  is not killing us, what is killing us is the drive for profits. With the so-called organic products, the capitalists are making big profits,  by the meantime workers must spend more money by changing their eating habits. The capitalists are poisoning the air, the rivers, the oceans, the land, animals, plants,   our cells and organs. We are living in a world where everything is blamed on the wrong entity, workers are blaming their problems on others workers instead on the capitalists, and workers are blaming their diseases in their eating habits instead on the drive for profits of the capitalist class. Our only solution is to overthrow this stupid society and build our own society

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prakash RP
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I don't smoke myself but you are changing the subject. There are penty of other food faddists in the SPGB -- not just vegetarians,  nature cure people and partisans of various different diets, fruit juice drinkers, even vegans. People smoke all sorts of things too. So you'd be in good company if you joined. But we don't regard choice of diet as a political matter but as a private one for each member to decide for themselves. ' ( comment by ALB; see #201 )

 

Dear ALB, inventing sophistries, I'm afraid, does no credit to the inventor of such silly stuff. Anyone can invent hundreds of such things, and any sensible people can see the fallacy of such stuff. If a human can stand up straight with their head held erect in front of the PRINCIPLE of HEALTHY and MEANINGFUL LIVING, I think they deserve great credit in today's world. Never ever did I say anything to suggest that people addicted to something have got no plus points or merits. But then, corrupt politicians, unscrupulous power brokers, people like the convicted former South Korean President Park Geun-hye, etc, etc also have got a lot of pluses. And just because someone has got a lot of pluses, they can't deserve to be recognised as fully civilised or communist, IMHO. 

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Prakash RP wrote:

 If a human can stand up straight with their head held erect in front of the PRINCIPLE of HEALTHY and MEANINGFUL LIVING, I think they deserve great credit in today's world. Never ever did I say anything to suggest that people addicted to something have got no plus points or merits. 

It just looks like judgemental, pompous self-regard to me.

ALB
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I'm afraid that's how you come across, Prakash.

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Prakash RP wrote:

 just because someone has got a lot of pluses, they can't deserve to be recognised as fully civilised or communist, IMHO. 

In MHO, anyone who feels they have the right to dictate how others choose to live their lives can't be recognised as fully civilised or a communist. As you fall into that catagory, you can draw your own conclusion.

On the other hand I have heard of the positive health benefits of going and sticking your head up a dead bear's arse, as someone who is interested in a healthy and meaningful life, perhaps you should try this health giving action?


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 ' It just looks like judgemental, pompous self-regard to me. ' ( admin #207 )

 

The observation quoted above happens to be an instance of a mere subjective impression that, even if it proves right wholly, doesn't deserve to be reckoned an argument or a logic meant to prove or disprove something. You don't want people like a corrupt bureaucrat or the convicted, former South Korean President Ms Park Geun-hye to be accepted as truly civilised, do you ?   

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