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Democratic Socialists added 1000 members in 2 days following election

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Matt
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Damn,I can't comment on the article unless I take out  a subscription.

"From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".

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What is that long history of socialists ideas ?  Most of the genuine sociaiists that existed in the USA came from another country, such as England, Canada and Germany. Daniel de Leon was from Venezuela. Eugene Debs stood for socialism, and then, he fell in the trap of bourgeoise reformism

There is a huge confusion in the USA of what socialism really is, anything that is different to the norm is called socialism, for most workers socialism is state capitalism, or whatever form of capitalism that existed in Russia, Eastern Europe, Cuba, China, or North Korea, and the new kid on the block known as Venezuela and Hugo Chavez. The same opinion of the corporate journalists who repeat like parrots the ideas of the rulers, they are just a bunch of cardboard readers.

This is a totally reformist organization which want to implement a program similar to Roosevelt's New Deal, and it became more popular after the electoral campaign of a social democrat like Bernie Sanders.

It attracts many young peoples because they are already used to reformism, and they are looking for something different, even more, the elderly  workers are already tired of the same, and they were looking for something different and they elected Donald Trump. Right wing and left wing political institution are the wings of the same birg, they come from the same nest known as capitalism

The only organization with socialist basis in the USA is the WSPUS, but it is also dead like I told them, and they threw me  out from their private-family forum. At the present time the WSM has not political future in the USA

 Proclaiming Fidel Castro, Che Guevara and the so called Cuban revolution will not conduct the working class toward socialism. It is like joining a social club

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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18k views explainer animation in under six months; DSA What is Capitalism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sLgqq939JQ

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jondwhite wrote:

18k views explainer animation in under six months; DSA What is Capitalism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sLgqq939JQ

They offer capitalism as a solution to capitalism causing nothing but confusion. Organisations like that are a bigger threat to the workers than anyone else. You can receive 80k views per £1000 invested in promotion.

Besides, we got 5k in a week  Do the mathcheeky

and we didn't offer capitalism as a solution.

Hope you've been sharing ours surprise

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Vin wrote:

jondwhite wrote:

18k views explainer animation in under six months; DSA What is Capitalism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sLgqq939JQ

They offer capitalism as a solution to capitalism causing nothing but confusion. Organisations like that are a bigger threat to the workers than anyone else. You can receive 80k views per £1000 invested in promotion.

Besides, we got 5k in a week  Do the mathcheeky

and we didn't offer capitalism as a solution.
Hope you've been sharing ours surprise

Indeed, and we haven't yet invested any money in its promotion.

But what is particularly nauseating is that a reformist outfit masquerading as revolutionary (and it's not the first time it's happened) has seemingly been proselytised on this forum. 

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But what is particularly nauseating is that a reformist outfit masquerading as revolutionary (and it's not the first time it's happened) has seemingly been proselytised on this forum.

Nothing of the kind. It has been informative and has allowed some comments from our viewpoint, for the illumination of non-members and newer members who can't attend discussion groups and education classes..

"From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".

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Vin wrote:

jondwhite wrote:

18k views explainer animation in under six months; DSA What is Capitalism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sLgqq939JQ

They offer capitalism as a solution to capitalism causing nothing but confusion. Organisations like that are a bigger threat to the workers than anyone else. You can receive 80k views per £1000 invested in promotion.

Besides, we got 5k in a week  Do the mathcheeky

and we didn't offer capitalism as a solution.

Hope you've been sharing ours surprise

 

That is all what  they do: To confuse the workers. With the left socailism has not advanced one inch or one day

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Matt wrote:

Damn,I can't comment on the article unless I take out  a subscription.

Well, try to join the club of the CPUSA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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A Guardian article related to this thread

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/02/socialism-young-american...

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“Young people who say that they’re socialists, or look favourably on socialism, they’re thinking about a kind of New Deal government or democracy against markets,” said Frances Fox Piven, coauthor of a widely debated radical plan in the 1960s to alleviate poverty and create a basic income, and more recently the targetof a vilification campaign by Fox News. “What the New Deal represented was government efforts to regulate an unbridled capitalism and to supplement the distribution of income under markets with government programs.”

"I have no country to fight for; my country is the Earth, and I am a citizen of the World." - Eugene V. Debs

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alanjjohnstone wrote:

A Guardian article related to this thread

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/02/socialism-young-american...

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“Young people who say that they’re socialists, or look favourably on socialism, they’re thinking about a kind of New Deal government or democracy against markets,” said Frances Fox Piven, coauthor of a widely debated radical plan in the 1960s to alleviate poverty and create a basic income, and more recently the target of a vilification campaign by Fox News. “What the New Deal represented was government efforts to regulate an unbridled capitalism and to supplement the distribution of income under markets with government programs.”

A new form of State Capitalism like in the Soviet Union,  by employing millions of workers by the state. The state apparatus become part of the ruling elite and the national corporation. 

Bernie Sanders is a new dealer, and his conception of socialism is what Marx called bourgeoisie communism. Real socialists ideas have not spread in the USA yet. 

Left wingers have propagated the wrong conceptions that state education, state transportation, state medical services, civil service, social service,  are socialism-communism. It is not a threat to capitalism

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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